Re: Links that recommend running nonfree JS code.


At this stage, I regretfully have urge anyone who would preference lashing out on twitter with their frustrations about the existence of this thread, to consider engaging in a reasoned way on this dedicated thread about their concerns. Whist throwing bigotry at me may seem like the easiest way to end this discussion without fuss, it is not so.

I tried to view a page on Facebook, which is a posting about a
political issue.  I used wget as usual, and all I got was something
telling me to log in first.

Meanwhile, you reported

  > It seems can actually technically view the page without being logged in
  > which is a good thing, but it seems that this is only possible when the
  > offending _javascript_ is not being blocked.

which is consistent with what I observed. 

Thanks for confirming. 

I think the proper rule is that a link to a page on Facebook is ok
provided it can be viewed without running nonfree JS code and without
logging in. 

Indeed, I would suggest that as the basic condition for acceptable
links to any site.  If the purpose of the link is to suggest people
look at the contents of the page, then the link is ok provided people
can see the contents without identifying themselves and without
running nonfree software.

This makes perfect sense to me. At the moment I am not totally convinced that the rest of the community are on board with what you have said though. It is not clear whether or not people understand the nuances of how you are defining things or whether there may even be so fundamental "political"/"ethical" differences of agreement (or some mix of both). It would be useful to have some more clarity on that so we all know whether any of this is actionable at this stage, I think.

In the special cases where the purpose of the link is something else
(such as to donate), then it needs to be judged according to that

One reason I suggested we change the subject onto links in general is because I had not expected you to be so willing to concede it would be possible to find a compromise about builder. I am delighted you have been able to prove me wrong about that. I have found a simple way to publish an indiGoGo for builder on the GNOME website as an iframe. I am not sure if that is what they want but I sent some code so that it could be added to the wordpress. indiGoGo don't seem to have an API on offer so the total can be queried and updated on a banner easily another method so I am hoping this way would be just as well.[1] What do you think? 


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