Re: "Private Foundation-List" Petition for referendum

[Behdad Esfahbod <behdad behdad org>]

On 12/14/2009 09:28 PM, Glynn Foster wrote:
> On 15/12/2009, at 2:49 PM, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
>
> > [/me removes board hat]
> >
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I like to ask for your support in my petition for referendum to make
> > foundation-list archives private and membership limited to actual
> > Foundation members. If we make that change we would be able to discuss
> > matters freely without making lots of news that more often than not
> > are harmful to our image to the world in general.
>
> Remember gnome-hackers? Mails get leaked all the time, and I doubt
> moving foundation-list private would make any difference.

Sure.  But at least someone needs to leak it.  Currently any heated discussion 
is like a goldmine begging the trolls to dip into it.

FWIW, that's what KDE does.  And we hardly hear about internal KDE issues in 
the news.

> GNOME needs to
> continue to promote itself as a transparent and welcoming community,
> which we do very very well for the most part. Let's be careful not to
> throw all that progress away.

The net effect of that perceived transparency is that many discussions happen 
on private IRC messages or direct mail and never make it to foundation-list in 
fear of long threads and negative publicity.


> Glynn
>
> (Yes, I'm still alive and regularly reading the Planet GNOME and the
> lists - I still consider myself a GNOME member for as long as I feel
> welcome, though not as active as I'd like to be with other committments)

That's what I like not kicking people out of PGO, so we can keep track of 
people like you.

Cheers,
behdad