Re: Code of Conduct and Foundation membership

[Behdad Esfahbod <behdad behdad org>]

On 12/09/2009 08:48 AM, Lionel Dricot wrote:
> I don't agree at all with the current direction of the discussion. For me,
> pgo is about people.
>
> Yes, I'm interested to learn that Nat will soon get married. Yes, I'm
> interested to hear about Mandriva on Frédéric's posts because I don't use
> it at all but at least I keep an eye on it thanks to his blog. Even the
> mono-bashism of Miguel is sometimes interesting : it allows me to know what
> is happening when I want to know. I like to practise my Dutch by reading
> Reinout's post and to see if UTF-8 works correctly when seeing Indian's
> poems.
>
> I'm happy to meet a fellow GNOME developer at FOSDEM and saying : "So, you
> like Karaté/Running/Vegan Cooking ?".
>
> I know some planets that choose to have a "code of conduct" about what
> should be posted or not (like planet Ubuntu-f or planet-libre.org). They
> all ended by not selecting the people on a quality basis but selecting
> posts that "respect the subject of the planet". It results in very-low
> quality planet, not interesting and, more importantly, without any soul,
> any spirit.
>
> Planet.gnome has a spirit. There's something (called it "soul" if you
> want). Don't break it. Remember planet.climate-change joke? That was huge
> and enjoyable.

EXACTLY.  EXACTLY.  EXACTLY.


> My solution is the following :
>
> - Each GNOME member should be able to add his feed to pgo. He might want
> to change his feed whenever he wants to take a more specialized one or not.
>
> - Each year, a mail is sent to those member asking if they want to stay on
> pgo and if they consider themselves still on-topic.

Lets limit it to a reminder that "you're on PGO.  if you want to be removed, 
email xxx" if we have to do something like that.

behdad

> But don't clean whiter than white. There's always off-topic stuffs or
> stuff you don't want to read. Just don't read them. Richard don't want to
> read stuffs about Mono? I understand, it's his choice and I respect it.
> He's not forced to read them. GNOME is about people. Sometimes, people are
> doing other stuffs than free software coding (aren't you?). When I'm at
> work, I often talk with co-worker about sports, about what I will eat
> tonight. When I go to #gnome-hackers, often the discussion is completely
> off-topic. Last night, on #gtg, I discussed about chocolates with someone
> arguing that there's good chocolate in Italy (can you believe that?). It
> was fun. I'm in GNOME because it's fun. GNOME is fun. PGO is fun.
>
> Please, please, please, keep the fun. World is collapsing? It's doing that
> for 2.000.000 years already! So, keep the fun…
>
> Lionel
>
>
> On Wed, 09 Dec 2009 14:27:43 +0100, Frederic Crozat<fcrozat mandriva com>
> wrote:
> > Le 08/12/2009 16:08, sankarshan a écrit :
> > > 2009/12/8 Pierre-Luc Beaudoin<pierre-luc pierlux com>:
> > > > On Tue, 2009-12-08 at 03:23 -0500, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
> > > > > But I find it interesting to know, say, what Miguel is up to these
> > > > > days. I don't think it's just me...
> > > >
> > > > I don't believe Frederic was pointing at Miguel.  There are people who
> > > > have left the Gnome community working on products that don't use any
> > > > Gnome technology posting blog post/ads for said product on PGO.
> > >
> > > [0] Unless specific names are pointed out to the Board or, on this
> > > list, the shadow boxing will be more harmful
> >
> > So, let's start (this is list done quickly by me and I haven't contacted
>
> > anybody from it), as basis:
> >
> > - Robert Love
> > - Christopher Blizzard
> > - Miguel De Icaza
> > - Nat Friedman
> > - Daniel Veillard
> > - Edd Dumbill
> > - Glynn Foster
> > - James Henstridge
> > - Jeff Waugh
> > - Mark McLoughlin
> > - Scott James Remnant
> >
> >
> > > [1] How does one define that they have "left the GNOME community" ?
> >
> > this list is based on people either no longer blogging at all or not
> > blogging about GNOME and not being active in GNOME. I don't have any
> > problem about people who blogs about non-political oriented things in
> > their life, as long as GNOME is one of those things...
> >
> > I'm not even sure I should still be on Planet GNOME (even if I'm release
>
> > team member), since most of my posts aren't about GNOME but about the
> > distribution I work on. And I sometime feels those posts could be seen
> > as propaganda for my distribution.
> >
> > Regarding what bedhad said, nothing prevent people to read those people
> > blog outside Planet GNOME (like Planet Mono or anything else).
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