Re: Hiring a part-time sysadmin?
- From: "Corey Burger" <corey burger gmail com>
- To: foundation-list gnome org, "Diego Escalante Urrelo" <diegoe gnome org>
- Subject: Re: Hiring a part-time sysadmin?
- Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 12:45:59 -0700
On 6/23/07, Jeff Waugh <jdub perkypants org> wrote:
<quote who="Bruno Boaventura">
> I think it's time to add more contributors on sysadmin. Me and Diego are
> very interested to contribute in many areas on GNOME. We have time,
> motivation and love, but we need help to start. I'm a person who can learn
> quickly.
I appreciate your enthusiasm, and there's every chance that we will take up
both your offers. However, our experience shows that 'more' does not always
mean 'better'. Don't be disappointed though -- that's just the gut reaction
you're going to get from the team straight away.
That said, there is work going on at the moment to improve the mechanism of
creating and approving accounts, which will allow us to parallelise the easy
bit. The hard bit, as always, is social. Often, it takes way longer to get
confirmations from peers than it does to create accounts and so on.
- Jeff
I am going to disagree with you here. We absolutely need to change a
few things. Getting anything on the GNOME infrastructure takes a hell
of a long time, for no good reason. Here are the bits we need better
communication/more people on:
1. Planet
We absolutely need a team around this. The delays make no sense
2. Foundation membership
We need better communication around this. Better communication would
be facilitated by having more people involved
3. SVN stuff
Creation of these things are slow.
Lastly, we need to stop being hostile to people trying to help. I
offered to help with the foundation membership and was rebuffed and
now you just rebuffed Diego.
It pisses me the hell off to watch the old guard rebuff people like
myself who are merely trying to help. Ever wonder why KDE is better at
attracting new people? Because they seem to understand that people are
not perfect when coming to them!
Annoyed,
Corey
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