Re: [Evolution] Have I pushed Evolution beyond where it is designed to go?

[Anonymous Japhering <japhering gmail com>]

On 11/14/22 12:08, Paul Smith wrote:
> On Mon, 2022-11-14 at 09:19 -0600, Anonymous Japhering via evolution-
> list wrote:
> > The 3.46.x flatpak series has been a total disaster for me.
> > Mysterious segfaults after 15 or so actions.
> This is (probably) due to the bug in libsoup, which has been fixed but
> that fix has not made it to the releases yet.
>
> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/libsoup/-/issues/308
>
> > Connection failures right and left.  I manage 8 email addresses. 4
> > Google workspace address, 2 Google free gmail address and 2 MS office
> > online addresses.  All 8 use Oauth2 to authenticate via IMAP.   At
> > the moment, 3 of google address won't authenticate ( 2 paid, 1 free)
> > and 1 of the MS accounts also fails.
> Hm.  I have 1 IMAP, 2 GMail (1 company 1 private), and 1 Exchange and
> all work properly for me.
>
> > When it works Flatpak is a nice tool, a much better alternative than
> > trying build Evolution from scratch or running the distro version
> > which is on 3.36.5
> I just want to make clear that the above issues are not due to
> _flatpak_ as a technology (at least there's no proof of that).  They
> are due to issues in Evolution 3.46 (or libraries it uses like
> libsoup).

Never said it was a Flatpak issue, just an issue that has been eating
my lunch since 3.46.x went live.

> IOW, if you had Evolution 3.46 installed natively on your system, not
> via flatpak, you'd almost certainly see the same issues.  Flatpak
> won't, unfortunately, fix bugs in software it packages :).
Unfortunately,  Ubuntu/Linux Mint trail Evolution by so much as to
make the distro install worthless to me, as I seem to be abusing Evolution
around the edges.  I left the distro provided version because of missing
functionality and bugs that impacted me, moving to the more current
Flatpak version.

Not to mention I don't have time nor disk space to build from scratch.

> The nice thing about flatpak is it's quite simple to install an older
> version (e.g., Evolution 3.44) if that's helpful to you.  If you're
> seeing crashes that often you may well want to downgrade until the
> libsoup issue is resolved in a flatpak.
Tried that once, was as nice as you imply as Evolution requires other
flatpaks to work properly. So you end up in a dependency hell trying to
get all the bits to the appropriate levels.

I find it easier just keep an instance of Thunderbird configured for when
Evolution flakes out.