Re: [Evolution] Is there to get an unread mail indicator next to each account name?

[Nybbles2Bytes <nybbles2bytes gmail com>]

I appreciate  your thoughts but again, the last thing I asked was where do I go to make a feature request. Saying you think it's a bad idea (even if only indirectly through your arguments) is simply one opinion vs another and is useless. Now a survey of a 1000 peoples opinions starts to have meaning done properly but that wasn't what I asked. In any case, Milan kindly answered that so I have my answer and know how to make the request.

Regarding a couple of your comments:

"Personally I think working with all your mail folder trees totally collapsed is not standard working practice for most people."

Agreed! ...when you have one or just a few email accounts. Now try it with 20 to 50 and vertical space becomes a premium so you have to change your practices a little to accommodate.

"Besides, I have given you a work around for Evolution using search folders..."

I tried this long before you mentioned it and it was buggy. Often I would rely on the search folder for new unread messages only to find they were in an IMAP folder but not reflected in the search result. Also if I remember correctly (I could be wrong) it didn't easily show what account the message was from nor make an easy way to open up the original message from the search folder (something TheBat! excelled at: Right+Click then select Locate Original).

That all being said, even if the workaround did work flawlessly. The key phrase is "workaround". Having a workaround available shouldn't stop anybody from putting a feature request in.

The best that will happen is we'll have a new feature and the worst they ignore your request -- or vise versa depending on your opinions so where's the problem here? To me it's arguing for the sake of arguing and not really worth any further time or effort.


On Tue, 2015-07-14 at 09:54 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > 
> > TheBat! - Not so well known but feature rich and solidly built 
> > (Windows). Does show unread message count when all you can see is the 
> > account name.
>
> Can't comment - commercial Windows email client.
>
> > 
> > ThunderBird - Migrating over to this opensource alternative to TheBat!  
> > Not nearly as slick but very well known and used and yes it does show 
> > unread message count when all you can see is the account name.
>
> Yes, and it's useless.  For me it currently shows 47811 - of which
> precisely 2 are in my Inbox. And Thunderbird doesn't look in anything
> but the Inbox for new messages as far as I can see: I get new mail in
> multiple folders, some of which are much more important for me than
> what arrives in my Inbox.
>
> > 
> > kmail - For my Android phone. Yes it does show unread message count when 
> > all you can see is the account name. I do believe this is reasonably 
> > well known when it comes to cell phones but can't say for sure.
>
> Apple mail doesn't - it only shows the mail count in the Inbox for the
> account.
>
> > 
> > Outlook 2013 - Not next to the account name but in a summary on the 
> > right instead. Probably not the best of designs since that only works 
> > for the account you are on however at least they tried and recognize the 
> > need in some fashion.
>
> It shows a summary of the account - only showing the mail count in the
> Inbox. 
>
> > 
> > Evolution. No it doesn't.
>
> Well clearly Evolution doesn't suit your needs then.
>
> Personally I think working with all your mail folder trees totally
> collapsed is not standard working practice for most people.
>
> Besides, I have given you a work around for Evolution using search
> folders - which you have conveniently ignored.  Just because Evolution
> doesn't do things in the same way as other clients, doesn't mean that
> it is wrong, it's just different.
>
> > 
> > I believe that Outlook & Thuderbird are by far the main ones known and 
> > used out there however I personally only use Outlook to help determine 
> > settings for Evolution when I have to do something with the corporate 
> > world (not saying more as it gets off topic). In any case, all do show 
> > an indicator except Evolution and Outlook and even Outlook has a stab at 
> > showing the unread message count - just not very intelligently done when 
> > you get into larger numbers of email accounts - for one or two how they 
> > do it is pretty good. I cannot say even that for Evolution.
>
> The bottom line is that the mail client you use is up to you.  If
> Evolution is not suitable for the way you work, then don't use it - you
> seem to like Thunderbird and if you are using both Windows and Linux,
> then it may well be better for you to use a consistent client on both
> systems.
>
> If you MUST use Evolution, then you have to work within its parameters 
> - and find ways around what you perceive as its shortcomings.  Or, of
> course, this is all open source software and I'm sure the devs will be
> happy to receive and assess patches to implement new features.
>
> Oh, and please don't top post on this mailing list.
>
> P.
>
> _______________________________________________
> evolution-list mailing list
> evolution-list gnome org
> To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list