Re: [Evolution] Need some help (I Got IT!!!)

[Tony Earnshaw <tonye billy demon nl>]

ons, 31.03.2004 kl. 12.07 skrev guenther:

> > Another reason for being a stick-in-the-mud and keeping to Evo 1.4,
> > whilst keeping SA ("what version was it again?") on the Postfix snapshot
> > smtp amavisd-new proxy MTA. *Where it belongs*. And yes, we have
> > LDAP-based amavisd-new per-user SpamAssassin preferences at this site.
> >
> > Whose bright idea was this enforced Evo SA innovation? I can see us all
> > having to go back to Mozilla yet once again :(
>
> Bullshit. Sorry, Tony, but that is plain FUD to me.

Call it "ignorance" if you wish, but FUD? FUD applies to what Microsoft
and SCO spread.

> You can entirely disabling filtering through SpamAssassin in Evolution.
> No one is forced to. IMHO it is a better approach in UN*X land to use
> applications, that already exist and proved to work very well. SA does
> for you. There is no need to implement a Bayesian filter for any mailer
> out there.

This I don't understand. One of the strongest assets of SA is a Bayesian
filter.

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> Sorry again Tony, I don't want to be offending or confrontational. And I
> sure don't want a flame war, but IMHO you where overreacting.

Wouldn't surprise me :) Jeff calls it being "confrontational".

> I'm not too happy with SA being used by default, too. Any user should
> decide to *enable* it, not disable it. And the additional dependency
> isn't fun anyway to me.
>
> Then have in mind that 1.5.x is *development* software. It is not yet
> intended for the users out there. Hopefully a proper documentation,
> warning and maybe a defensive default (SA disabled) will be part of
> Evolution 2.0. (Anna, Aaron?)

SA is highly specialized software, intended for MTAs, not MUAs. It needs
careful configuring and maintenance on a regular basis, it presumes a
site admin who is capable of understanding and implementing
site-specific Perl regular expressions and is capable of doing 'man' and
running tests on a regular basis. SA runs normally as an extension to
MTA server software. It has its own medium-volume mailing list devoted
to the above. If Evo people start posting on it, they'll be talking
another language. The Mozilla Bayes filter constitutes a reasonable
subset (Bayes filtering) which actually complement site-wide filtering
and needs no specialist knowledge.

--Tonni

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