Re: [Evolution] Lost Received time

[Jeffrey Stedfast <fejj ximian com>]

On Fri, 2002-09-20 at 09:08, Not Zed wrote:
> if you add received date, you may as well just get all headers.  i
> reckon on average it'll be smaller (received is normally the biggest
> chunk downloaded from the server).

Yea, I know :\

> also, you could just fudge it and make received == date.

thought about doing this, maybe this is what we should do.

Jeff

> On Sat, 2002-09-21 at 09:15, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
> > On Fri, 2002-09-20 at 19:09, Lonnie Borntreger wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2002-09-20 at 18:07, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
> > > > anyways, I guess I can add the Received: header to the list too
> > > > (although that boosts the amount of traffic a fair bit since there are
> > > > often multiple Received headers and usually they are multi-line).
> > > >
> > > > *sigh*
> > >
> > > Oh, it's not that critical.  I just find it sorts more logically for
> > > those who have their computer not set up correctly.  But if you would
> > > prefer to put this work off, no biggie.  I'll just change to using the
> > > Date field.  The "?"'s just threw me off a bit.
> >
> > I wasn't sighing at you needing the received date, that's fine. I was
> > more just frustrated with IMAP/speed demands :-)
> >
> > I wish that the ENVELOPE command gave us all the headers we need, but it
> > doesn't. There's a demand for Evolution's first-time-opening-a-folder
> > code to be a lot faster, and I was hoping that my patch would get us a
> > good portion of the way there. But we're slowly going back to having to
> > fetch the entire header block again.
> >
> > See, clients like Mozilla-mail seem to use ENVELOPE and so are extremely
> > fast for loading the folder for the first time (after that you have the
> > summary info for the first chunk of the messages already cached and so
> > you only need to fetch the headers for the new messages that have
> > arrived since the last time you opened the folder).
> >
> > Unfortunately, Evolution-mail used to fetch the entire HEADER because we
> > did special things like showing Received date (which I had forgotten
> > about) and doing mailing-list "magic" for vfolders and such.
> >
> > I guess I'm just frustrated being forced between a rock and a hard
> > place. "Here, now...you have to make Evolution's IMAP folder loading as
> > fast as the fastest client but at the same time you have to do MORE." I
> > just wish the people demanding the impossible realised how impossible
> > the task they are asking for really is.
> >
> > BTW, my IMAP optimisation patch makes loading a folder for the first
> > time somewhere between 2 and 3 times faster than it was previously,
> > depending on average header sizes of the messages in that folder.
> >
> > Not sure how much of an impact asking for all the Received headers will
> > make. Hopefully not much :\
> >
> >
> > hmmm, I forgot that ENVELOPE gives us the needed info for threading
> > (in-reply-to and references), so maybe we can request and ENVELOPE and
> > then just the extra mlist headers that we care about. I'll have to look
> > into doing this I guess. Wonder if that will be faster than asking for
> > the specific headers?
> >
> >
> > Jeff
> >
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