Re: [Ekiga-list] [GUADEC 2013 Proposal]

[Jim Diamond <Jim Diamond acadiau ca>]

On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 18:07 (+0200), Genghis Khan wrote:

> On Thu, 16 May 2013 11:03:00 -0300
> Jim Diamond <Jim Diamond acadiau ca> wrote:

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> > > There's nothing missing or wrong in Ekiga per se. 

> > > But if we want to think in Ekiga as a component of GNOME (3.x) we
> > > shall admit that Ekiga doesn't follow the UI design and the
> > > migration to GTK+ 3.x, GSettings, GStreamer, etc., is a bit lagged
> > > behind.

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> > (I'm not bad-mouthing gnome 2 or gnome 3; I do prefer gnome 2 to kde.
> > However, as a non-gnome desktop environment user (Slackware dropped
> > gnome many years ago), the "gnome" aspects of (first gnomemeeting and
> > then) ekiga have caused me considerable amounts of grief over the
> > years. In particular, gconfd has caused lots of problems, and it is
> > unclear to me what the benefits are, in particular for people who
> > don't use gnome as their DE.)

> Before I get to bash GNOME, please note that you can choose not to use
> GNOME and gconfd support by using these flags:
>  --disable-gnome \
>  --disable-gconf \

> So your argument is irrelevant (well, unless there is no GNOME-free
> binary package available in some repository)
I wouldn't quite say "irrelevant".  I was using the ekiga slackbuild
available at http://slackbuilds.org/ and I see now that it uses
--disable-gnome but for whatever reason uses --enable-gconf.  I assume
the guy who maintains the slackbuild does that for a reason, but I
could certainly try recompiling with it  --disable-gconf.

I do appreciate the fact that ekiga provides these options.

> even though I fully agree with your point of view.

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> > As an(other?) example, I am having no luck when behind a NAT router.
> > I see no gui option to set up STUN. I search the web a bit and find
> > out I need to use gconf-editor. Too bad that it doesn't exist on
> > slackware, since (presumably) there is no gnome. Ho hum.
> I also think that there should be an option in GUI to set up STUN.
There used to be.  (At least in gnommeeting, maybe since.)  I wonder
why it went away.

                                Jim