Re: What is "Negerpunk"?

[the lady phoenix gmail com]

French Fries come from the cooking term "to french" of cut into long
retangular strips.  It doesn't mean its french.  The name French Fry
is an english/american name and in Europe they are called Pomme
Frites, literally Fried Potatoes.  Another example is Julian Fries,
not named after a guy named Juilian but rather "to julian" yet another
cooking term for a particular type of cut.  In this way the american
haterd of all things french a few years back where people started
calling them freedom fries makes as much sense as the trying to figure
out musical genres and what ones are used by labels and what are used
by people to describe them.  Some accurate, others to be different,
and yet others to insult and/or show their ignorance.

For Music, I leave that to people that know more about music them me
to debate the names and what ones should be included.  This concludes
the brief history lesson on french fries.

On 14/06/2013, Kip Warner <kip thevertigo com> wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-06-14 at 19:08 -0400, Phillip Susi wrote:
> > I think the test that should be used is whether or not this term is
> > actually in use.  Is there a published album that classifies itself with
> > this label?  A music store somewhere with a section dedicated to this
> > Genre?  If not, then perhaps it really was a bad joke and it's time to
> > stop copying it.
>
> That's a good start for a test, but I still have a concern: Of all the
> hundreds of different genres, I'm sure there are probably plenty of
> ones just as obscure that we could spend all day trying to find an
> album that self identifies. Examples include "porn groove" (109),
> "booty bass" (107), "terror" (130), "math rock" (172), etc..
>
> You've also got to love "ethnic" (48) which, personally, I think is far
> more ridiculous a genre than "negerpunk", given that I'm yet to see
> anyone characterize Beethoven or any other Belgian or European
> originating music as "ethnic". I often hear people refer to Ethiopian,
> Algerian, etc. cuisine as "ethnic" food, yet French fries are
> apparently not, nor Ireland's McDonalds' brothers Irish, nor English
> blood sausages. "Classical" is taken unqualified to mean distinctively
> European, though Chinese people and most of the rest of the world
> probably were capable of making and enjoying music throughout
> antiquity.
>
> Like many categories, the more you think about them in a philosophical
> and epistemological sense, the more you realize they turn out to have
> never made much sense to begin with. In this situation, as long as the
> genre name's origin was made in good faith, I personally think we
> should probably just leave "negerpunk" be in EasyTAG.
>
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