Re: Concerning Keyboard Status Menu

[Justin Wong <bigeagle xdlinux info>]

On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Debarshi Ray <rishi is lostca se> wrote:

> So you want to keep of track all useful engines? What's good for that?

Yes.

The good thing is that users, who are not familiar with all the
politics of free software input method frameworks and engines, get to
choose from a list of good quality engines. They do not have to go
searching all over the Internet to figure out what is what, and what
is more broken or less broken, and so on.

If some of the engines are still lacking in features, you are welcome
to improve them. Yes, that won't happen in a single day. But if you do
the heavy lifting then you actually improve things instead of
constantly working around things that are broken.

There is a phrase called "draining the swap". That is what we are
trying to do here.

If you think that an engine that is listed should be replaced by
another because it is better than the one that is listed, then you are
welcome to request that. You can even submit a patch to make that
switch.

> Why don't GNOME maintain a whitelist for applications either?

Because unlike typing and inputing with a mouse or keyboard, people do
not perceive applications to be part of the OS or the desktop
environment (or whatever it is that you want to call it).

Do you have to choose from a dozen different drivers just to get your
keyboard or mouse to work?

 

That's obviously and completely wrong.

Let me give an example u may understand:

Operating Systems should just work on PCs, and Windows 8 just works, and obviously, some Linux does not support PC hardware perfectly, there is no drivers for lots of hardwares, so we have a whitelist on UEFI, and only Windows is bootable on PCs.

It's ridiculous to you isn't it? and whitelisting IM engines as ridiculous to Chinese users as whitelisting OS installation on PCs. 

u may still don't understand, it's like there are still many people think Microsoft's UEFI whitelist is good to them because they don't use OSs other than windows. just like these people, u think whitelist is good just because u don't use Chinese IMs.

so my point is, whitelist itself is wrong, the right way is remove whitelist. 

and how about those low quality IMs? Just let them be, IM developers will update there code so that they can be intergrated, users would just abandon IM engines which does not work, nobody cares whether it's well intergrated with gnome.

Input methods and keyboard layouts are similar. They should just
work. We are working hard to achieve that. We are not there yet. You
are welcome to help out by fixing the engines and proposing good
defaults.

Or you can wait for someone else to do it for you.

Cheers,
Debarshi

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