Re: On the Interaction with the design team

On Fri, 2011-06-03 at 13:05 +0000, Øyvind Kolås wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Sam Thursfield <ssssam gmail com> wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Dave Neary <dneary gnome org> wrote:
> >> On 06/02/11 02:02, Robert Ancell wrote:
> >>>
> >>> A huge +1 on this.  IRC is much more productive, but it's crucial that
> >>> it's logged for people who can't attend.  (I'm always hitting this
> >> I really don't think IRC logs are a good way of communicating anything. It's
> >> better than unlogged, but really only marginally.
> >
> > this is an excellent point, you've just made me reconsider my thoughts
> > on IRC logging.
> Logging all communication of spontaneous conversation and interactions
> in IRC has the potential of destroying the culture and freedom to make
> and share mistakes that is essential when collaboratively designing.

I don't get it. Why are you afraid of having mistakes logged?
I make mistakes all the time. I make them on IRC, I make them
in person, and I make them on mailing lists. My mistakes are
a matter of public record.

Here are two reasons I could see for people wanting their IRC
conversations to be unlogged, along with my solution:

* Sharing sensitive information.
- Don't do that on IRC. Use a private chat if you have to.
  But if it's really sensitive, you should know that even
  a private IRC chat is totally unsecure.

* Being a total asshat.
- Stop being a total asshat.


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