Hi! > Everyone may have an opinion and they are free to express it. However, > not everyone can be consulted before the fact - it is just practically > impossible. Those opinions, however, should be carefully gathered and > analyzed. There are careers for this. I think you miss the original point of the discussion: Even people that would want to join the discussion have a hard time doing it if everything is discussion on IRC (at a certain time) only. > Obvious examples of very close relationships between design and > development: GNOME Shell, System Settings, Nautilus, and everything > that will be in 3.2. :) Pretty good list of examples. All of these projects are mostly driven by Red Hat full-time employees (which isn't a bad thing in general). It happens to be the same company employing big parts of the core design team. While this doesn't mean it is a "closed group" of people, for an outside developer or volunteer it pretty much feels like that even if the individuals of that group are totally open to external contribution/envolvement. Regards, Johannes
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