Re: Trying a new toolbar style

Karl Lattimer wrote:
On Wed, 2009-07-29 at 10:41 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Thomas Wood<thos gnome org> wrote:
Hi folks,

We've had a discussion on gnomecc list about removing the "Interface"
tab from the appearance capplet (see discussion¹ in the archive for

However, before we do so, we would like to ensure the the defaults are
correct. The main reason for the tab being there at all is because
people felt the defaults are probably incorrect.

The main default we would like to change is the "toolbar style"
settings. I have suggested¹ that there is broad support for the "text
beside icons" style, however there have been concerns that not all
applications implement it properly. It is important to note that in this
mode, only the most important toolbar items get text labels.

While I am all for dropping the interface tab, I think it is silly to
ignore the results of distros which have already tried this change and
found it to not work.

As Calum said, OpenSolaris had to go back to text-below-icons because
the mode you propose did not work as a default.

Calum, is there any chance you can provide a copy of Sun's findings WRT
to this reversion? It would of course be useful to understand the actual
reasoning made.
While I can't speak for Calum whether he has further finding on the user experience on this. I do recall the QA came to me asking: Why are some Icons do not have the text beside them, and some apps have different set of (i.e. different number of icons that have text beside the icons). He found that generally confusing.

Personally, I find not having a text label discouraging the use of this icon. While I found Thomas' proposal for text beside looks neat and his reasoning sounds, that particular QA's questions were valid and I couldn't give him a satisfactory answers then. Now, I would just point him the blog page :)

Personally I find no problem with the text-beside-icons, maybe there's
something I've missed.
IMHO the vertical screen space is far more important than having labels
for every icon, especially now that we're seeing more widescreen laptops
and netbooks than old 4:3's because of this resolution in the vertical
is reducing in most cases from 1024 to 800 pixels tall.

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