Re: Proposed module: conduit

[Willie Walker <William Walker Sun COM>]

Hi John:

Thank you for your interest in accessibility -- it's a huge milestone 
when mainstream developers ask "how can *I* do this" versus stating 
"give me a patch and I'll see if we like it".  Awesome stuff, and 
accessible design/development is a skill I hope more and more people add 
to their daily tool bag.

Li is the AT-SPI infrastructure maintainer and is *very* good.  He will 
be the best person to help with understanding how to do the work.  I 
apologize for the sketchy documentation -- we're currently working on 
improving that as part of the GNOME Outreach Program: Accessibility work.

Thanks again for your consideration for accessibility!

Will

John Stowers wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 07:37 -0400, Willie Walker wrote:
> > From Li Yuan regarding a11y:
> >
> > "Accessibility is a problem for conduit. The GUI is simple, but the 
> > left tree view doesn't support keyboard navigation well. Also one has 
> > to drag some items to the right "sync area", there is no way to do this 
> > by keyboard. And the "sync area" is not accessible. I suspect 
> > accessibility work is need by goocanvas.
>
> Yeah, I saw those bugs today. Thanks a lot. I had a few discussions at
> GUADEC on how to actually implement the appropriate atk interfaces, for
> the canvas items, using python directly. It seems documentation on how
> to do this is a bit thin, at least in comparison with the rest of the
> accessibility+gtk docs, where one can set properties on the widgets
> directly.
>
> Does anyone have any idea on how to go about doing this?
>
> John
>
> > See: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=545429
> > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=545430
> > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=545431
> >
> > Li"
> >
> > On Jul 30, 2008, at 6:44 AM, Murray Cumming wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 23:49 +1200, John Stowers wrote:
> > > > > So with what sites can I easily sync my data (from what desktop
> > > > > applications)?
> > > > The following is a partial list of non-pim sync functionality
> > > I just tried Conduit (version 0.3.6 in Ubuntu Hardy) and I don't think
> > > it's at all easy. I failed to figure out how to upload (or sync) photos
> > > from a local folder to flickr. I did manage to drag rectangles for
> > > flickr and a folder to the canvas.
> > >
> > > It seems roughly comparable to using the gstreamer pipeline editor
> > > instead of using Totem. We can't possibly present this as an 
> > > application
> > > for users. Major -1 from me.
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't like assistants (wizards) but I guess that this would be better
> > > with an additional assistant, guiding people through the choices
> > > somehow. For instance:
> > >
> > > Page 1:
> > > Synchronize to web or to device:
> > >
> > > [] Website
> > > [] Palm Pilot
> > > [] Windows CE Device
> > > [] Nokia Internet Tablet
> > > [] Mobile Phone
> > >
> > > Page 2 (Website):
> > >
> > > Choose Folder.
> > >
> > > Synchronize this folder to:
> > >
> > > Photos:
> > > [] Flickr
> > > [] Picasa
> > > etc
> > >
> > > Videos:
> > > [] YouTube
> > > [] Google Video
> > > etc
> > >
> > > General Files:
> > > [] Box.net
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > == Photos ==
> > > > FSpot/eye of gnome/nautilus/folder <-->
> > > >  * Flickr
> > > >  * Picasa
> > > >  * SmugMug
> > > >  * ShutterFly
> > > >  * Facebook
> > > >  * iPod Phots
> > > >
> > > > == Videos ==
> > > > totem/nautilus/folder -->
> > > >  * Youtube
> > > >  * iPod Video
> > > >  * nxxx
> > > >
> > > > == Files ==
> > > > * file/folder <--> file/folder
> > > > * Box.net
> > > > * S3 support (eta: 1 week)
> > > > * Google Documents
> > > >
> > > > == Notes ==
> > > > Tomboy Notes <-->
> > > > * Backpack Notes
> > > > * File/Folder
> > > >
> > > > == Misc ==
> > > > * RSS feed enclosures
> > > > * Desktop settings (GConf)
> > > >
> > > > There is also network sync functionality that allows two PCs to sync
> > > > peer to peer any of the above listed data.
> > > >
> > > > I have not gone into the other sync permutations possible, and I am
> > > > certain I have left some items out.
> > > --
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> > > www.openismus.com
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