Re: Moving to *Avahi* over howl
- From: Trent Lloyd <lathiat bur st>
- To: JP Rosevear <jpr novell com>
- Cc: desktop-devel-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: Moving to *Avahi* over howl
- Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 08:48:29 +0800
On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 08:25:12PM -0400, JP Rosevear wrote:
> On Tue, 2005-09-20 at 00:03 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > On Mon, 19.09.05 11:16, JP Rosevear (jpr novell com) wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, 2005-09-16 at 15:57 +0100, Jono Bacon wrote:
> > > > On 9/16/05, Lennart Poettering <mztabzr 0pointer de> wrote:
> > > > > I doubt this a good idea. Avahi's DBUS interface reflects what Avahi
> > > > > is capable of and is in no way a generic DNS-SD API. In fact, Avahi is
> > > > > more powerful than either Howl or the Bonjour in many
> > > > > respects. Writing a bridge to access Howl/Bonjour via that DBUS API
> > > > > would be exceptionally kludgy if not impossible.
> > > >
> > > > This is a policy decision. If an abstraction layer was used to
> > > > abstract away any possible implementation of a technology, GNOME would
> > > > bloat to hell.
> > >
> > > A thin abstraction layer is not bloat especially when you are are tieing
> > > in at lower an lower levels of the system. What happens for instance if
> > > windows Vista has its own zeroconf implementation, it would be better to
> > > tie in there. Or if gnome-keyring would rather use Apple's secret store
> > > instead of its default.
> > I know, it's not the point, but it is very unrealistic that Microsoft
> > might support mDNS/DNS-SD in the future. They fight for their own
> > "LLMNR" ("Linklocal multicast Name resolution") stuff wich is actually
> > more or less the same as mDNS but incompatible and without DNS-SD and
> > neither as optimized nor as powerful. There is actually quite an
> > hostility between Apple and Microsoft on this topic apparent on the
> > IETF mailing list on this topic.
> Something else to wrap in a service discovery layer? :-)
While a little off the point, LLMNR doesn't include discovery, only name
resolution, and the standard sucks for various reasons I won't bother
detailing here :)
> JP Rosevear <jpr novell com>
> Novell, Inc.
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> desktop-devel-list gnome org
Trent Lloyd <lathiat bur st>
Bur.st Networking Inc.
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