Re: [PROPOSAL] 'Change Password GUI'

[Trent Lloyd <lathiat bur st>]

On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 06:23:48PM +1200, Matthew Thomas wrote:
> Trent Lloyd wrote:
> >
> >On Thu, 2005-05-19 at 14:05 +1200, Matthew Thomas wrote:
> >
> >>Trent Lloyd wrote:
> >...
> >>>I think this is stupid, this interface is an *admin* interface, you
> >>>can't expect users to go in to some admin tool,
> >>
> >>Then the right way to fix it is to stop categorizing it as solely an 
> >>"admin tool", not to provide redundant interfaces for the same task. See 
> >> the introduction to <http://live.gnome.org/PreferencesRevisited>.
> >
> >But if I open a tool for me, I see stuff about me
> >If I open a tool for administration, i expect to see an information
> >overview,
> 
> Then the right way to fix it is to stop categorizing it as solely a 
> "tool for administration", not to provide redundant interfaces for the 
> same task. See the introduction to 
> <http://live.gnome.org/PreferencesRevisited>.
> 
> (Hey! There's an echo in here!)

I did read this before I wrote my last reply and the reasons I listed
are why I don't think this would work so well, although I agree the
general idea is good.

That said my views are somewhat pessimistic of the average user.

> >if by getting the default "me", then I have to navigate to yet
> >another position in the program which is anti-productive and makes it no
> >different to having a separate tool, other than the fact its now
> >"slower" to get there.
> >...
> 
> Hmmmm. Effort to see someone else's info in Users and Groups currently: 
> possible scrolling, then two clicks. Effort to see someone else's info 
> in my suggested design: possible scrolling, then one click.

If you want someone elses info, on either interface would be very
similar, the only difference is the single/double click which could just
as easily be implemented in the current interface so isn't really part
of the whole argument of integrating the whole interface.

So your point invalidates how much effort I have to do to get out of my
user screen, however the point of a user accidentally going to another
bit or hitting an arrow key/accidetal click to load some other user, or
not thinking the selected user is theres and selecting another one (only
then to be confronted by an admin password dialog box, and in many
situations they might just stick it in and not notice), is still valid, IMHO.

> 
> Ah, I see my mistake now. One click is slower than two clicks, so my 
> suggestion would be slower than the current design. Also, I seem to have 
> wandered into the wrong universe. Sorry for the intrusion. :-)

:)

Cheers,
Trent

> 
> Cheers
> -- 
> Matthew "and I don't even have my towel" Thomas
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Trent Lloyd <lathiat bur st>
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