Re: Awesome new Mozilla roadmap!



El lun, 07 de 04 de 2003 a las 22:12, Vadim Plessky escribió:
> On Monday 07 April 2003 23:57, Carlos Perelló Marín wrote:
> |  El lun, 07 de 04 de 2003 a las 21:39, Vadim Plessky escribió:
> |  [...]
> |
> |  > And I can't take seriously statements that "Nautilus doesn't require Web
> |  > View/embedded browser component"
> |  > For the Heavens sake, *how* you can have modern Desktop without
> |  > integrated browser?..
> |
> |  Hmmmm
> |
> |  Please define "modern Desktop".
> 
> Windows+MS IE+Outlook.
> KDE+Konqueror+KMail.
> MacOS X+Safari (don't remember how they name e-mail client)

You are not talking then about file manager with web browser features,
so:

GNOME + Galeon/Epiphany + Evolution

What's the problem with that?

> 
> |
> |  Apple's MacOS is  a really modern Desktop and does NOT integrate the
> |  browser inside their Finder (Finder is the MacOS Nautilus)
> |
> 
> Safary would be released soon.
> Missing browser was one of key MacOS weaknesses.

We are working also with Galeon and epiphany and you can install galeon
since gnome 1.4 so we are a «modern desktop» as you understand it...

> 
> |  I only know Microsoft Windows and KDE that integrate the browser inside
> |  their file manager. KDE does it because Windows have that feature, not
> |  because it's a "modern Desktop" (as you understand it).
> 
> KDE does it because KDE *can* deliver first-class browser.
> AFAIK, it's the best browser on the market, if you count both 
> standards-compatibility and ability to render pages designed for MS IE.

Well, that's your point of view. Under my point of view is gecko the
winner.. It follows all standards and it's all that I need.

> 
> On the other hand, Mozilla team can't deliver good browser even after 5 years 
> of work. So, it's rather stupid to discuss wether GNOME should have Galeon or 
> Epiphany.
> If you want nice GNOME - than GNOME *should not* have Gecko-based browser!

That affirmation is as if I tell you: Windows team cannot deliver a good
Operating system even after more than 20 years of work, so it's stupid
that Microsoft exists... (Change Microsoft and Windows with KDE,
NextStep, Linux, FreeBSD, etc...) 

I don't see an independent report that shows us that affirmation so it's
only your point of view, if you don't like mozilla, use konkeror, if you
don't like GNOME, use KDE, or help us fixing them, don't say «It's  not
good» Tell us what things are not working and help us fixing those
problems (if you can) but don't eat my precious time with this kind of
mails.


> |
> |  GNOME, MacOSX, KDE, Windows and others I don't know/remember are modern
> |  desktops but don't do the things the same way...
> |

Cheers.


-- 
Carlos Perelló Marín
Debian GNU/Linux Sid (PowerPC)
Linux Registered User #121232
mailto:carlos pemas net || mailto:carlos gnome org
http://carlos.pemas.net
Valencia - Spain

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