Re: [EWMH] _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_AUXILIARY

[Nathaniel Smith <njs pobox com>]

On Sat, Oct 13, 2007 at 07:19:02PM +0000, Tuomo Valkonen wrote:
> I guess you didn't read what I wrote. But, oh, well, go ahead and
> design your highly specific ultra-complex kludgy WIMPshit crap like
> you've always done. After all, world domination by Gnome and KDE
> shit is more important than keeping things nice, clean and abstract,
> and fostering alternatives.

Umm, Tuomo, wtf.  AFAICT in regards to _EFFECT vs. override-redirect,
you're arguing *against* having clients provide fine-grained
information to the WM (i.e., letting the WM distinguish between "I am
a legacy override-redirect window, which could have any number of
intended semantics" and "I am *this sort* of override-redirect
window").  This approach gives the WM strictly more ability to make
intelligent and flexible policy decisions.  What you would prefer is
to take away that information, and then to handle the use case stated,
you want the spec to impose the one policy (!) that should be used for
o-r windows in all cases.  And this is in the name of abstraction and
fostering alternatives?  I don't get it.

(And ftr, I'm one of those people who prefers the alternatives.)

-- Nathaniel

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