Re: new hint for EWMH

[Tapani Pälli <tapani palli nokia com>]

ext Mark Tiefenbruck wrote:
>> My pop-up menus with GTK/Gnome/Metacity are happy to go over the dock
>> right now, and it seems like the right thing to me... why would you
>> expect otherwise?
>>     
>
> I'd expect pop-up windows to stay within _NET_WORKAREA because that's
> the geometry of the desktop. Windows shouldn't be placed outside it
> because they might interfere with important widgets. And just
> aesthetically, I think pop-up windows should remain within the window
> that owns them; as a bonus, when implemented as child windows, this
> avoids all the nastiness of grabbing the server (causing xmms to stop,
> breaking alt-tab, etc.), but it's usually not an option.
>
> Anyway, don't bother arguing with that. I know I'm in the minority.
> So, how many of these input method windows do you expect to see at a
> time? How often do they get moved or resized? Are they free-floating
> (like xvkbd), or do they stick to the sides of the screen? I don't
> think I'm the only one who's not totally sure how these interactions
> take place.
>
>   

Well, actually for Maemo only IM is visible at time but I've heard
argument that on some tablet-pc:s there can be several at time
especially with asian languages. With Maemo the original problem was
that our browser's url-entrycompletion is very close to IM (on top of
it) and while you were writing url, entrycompletion would popup it's
completion-list (from history) covering partly top of IM so one could
not continue writing anymore (or at least use all of keys). It might be
that this proposal is not optimal solution everywhere though.

>> (Most clients do not select for PropertyNotify on the root window, do
>> they?  With all the proposals suggested so far, all apps would have to
>> start doing so, with the resulting extranous wakeups and thus power
>> problems, not to mention the general memory manager unfriendliness of
>> waking up dozens of otherwise-idle programs all at once all the time.)
>>     
>
> No, you don't have to listen to the root window continuously. Just
> check the property when you need to open a pop-up window.
>
>   

Yep, this is how I thought it would work. Update property whenever IM
window is mapped/unmapped.

>   Mark
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// Tapani