On Sat, 2008-03-08 at 08:10 -0800, Kirk Bridger wrote: > My guess is that this is simply a reflection of a common issue with > keyboard accelerators: sometimes the menu has more than 1 word > starting with the same letter. > > In this case, if 'P' went to programming, how would someone get to the > top-level "Places" without using the cursor keys? I'm sure > Programming has some letter accelerator, but P isn't it. Making > Places the P destination makes sense as it is the top level menu and > your scenario was right after opening the menu. > > The same thing happens with the 's' - it opens System rather than > Sound... > > The solution might be to indicate somehow what the accelerator key is > in the menu, but the behavior makes sense to me in some ways. I've > just opened the menu and the accelerators take me to the top level > menu items. I think you may mean access key. the access key has an underscore to indicate the key you can press to select the item. An accelerator key is a <Meta|Alt|Control|Shift><key> combination that jumps into the menu, or directly activates a menu item. I'm surprised any access keys works. Since there is not an underscore indicating that the menu item has an access key, I've never tried it. I use <ALT>F1, then arrow keys to select items. In general the menu is behaving like a list where the key press will select the first item that starts with that key. I do not experience the described behaviour by the way in Ubuntu Gutsy. <Alt>F1 activates the Menu Bar. The keys 'p' and 's' do activates the Places and System menu respectively, and pressing a key will select any submenu that starts with that key. The Application menu is a problem. It is not activated by <Alt>F1, I cannot activate it with the 'a' key, even though I can see the menu items. The GNOME Main Menu also has problems. I can activate it and access the menu items, but it does not behave like application menus. Selecting an item that has a submenu should make the submenu active so that I can use keys to select an item. I think the GNOME Main Menu (and the Menu Bar used by Ubuntu) violate the HIG. Reading the guidelines at http://library.gnome.org/devel/hig-book/stable/menus.html.en I think the general problem is that both menus do not provide access keys. The Menus are special though, They are not verb/adjective based since they focus on things. I filed this as GNOME bug #521227 and linked it to the ubuntu bug in Launchpad (bug #199866). -- __C U R T I S C. H O V E Y_______ Guilty of stealing everything I am.
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