Re: [Usability] SoundJuicer "Submit Track Names" is unusable.

["Rohan Oberoi" <rohan oberoi cornell edu>]

Every popular CD ripper has a one-button submit functionality.  Most
of them use freedb, not Musicbrainz.  Look at Audiograbber.  Look at
Exact Audio Copy.   Look at CDEX.

The right way to improve SJ is to add the same functionality as
popular CD rippers have, not to invent some tortuous solution that
sounds like a good idea to a developer living in his own world.

Honestly, some of the responses here just seem to be trying to
deliberately reinforce the stereotype of Linux developers as techheads
living in their own world, with utter contempt for ordinary users and
usability.

If you don't want Linux to be usable by ordinary people, just %#% say so.

Rohan


On 5/8/07, Bastien Nocera <hadess hadess net> wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 16:44 +0200, Rohan Oberoi wrote:
> > I'm sorry, but while your point of view is undeniably valid it reminds
> > me irresistibly of the Dilbert comic strip in which an engineer says
> >
> > "I'll make the command easy to remember, like 'CTRL-ALT-F4-DEL.' And
> > if they forget that, they can just edit the source code in
> > 'COMMAND.COM.' Perfect."
> >
> > Just because you think something "isn't that hard", don't assume
> > everybody else has the time or inclination to go through the learning
> > curve as well.    Make things as simple and intuitive as possible, not
> > as twisted and complicated as you personally are happy to put up with.
> >  I would have thought that would be Usability 101.
>
> I didn't say it was easy, I said it wasn't that hard. The web page is a
> bit convoluted, and could do with a bit of help. But you're much better
> of taking this with Musicbrainz directly, rather than expecting an
> interface to be built into Sound-Juicer.
>
> An interface in Sound-juicer would be much more complicated than you'd
> expect, as Musicbrainz has concepts that wouldn't be easily translated
> into a non-web UI (artists as their own, voting, strict naming of
> tracks/artists, referencing, etc.).
>
> Make the Musicbrainz website better, it's the right way to improve it.
>
> At the same time, one thing that Sound-juicer could do, when a network
> connection is available, is allow to add disc IDs to an existing release
> (ie. a disc already present with a different ID on Musicbrainz) without
> going through the interface.
>
> I filed http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=436913 about it.
>
> That would take care of most cases for end-users, although
> rare/incredibly new discs would still have problems.
>
> --
> Bastien Nocera <hadess hadess net>