Re: [Usability]Keeping the Quit menu item

[Wesley Leggette <wleggette gate net>]

On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 13:15, Ettore Perazzoli wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 03:30, Maciej Stachowiak wrote:
> > I'm not sure I like the Mac OS "feature" of an application continuing
> > to run after all windows are closed. It certainly took a long time to
> > get used to. But I don't think it's an essential part of an
> > app-centric model.
> 
> Well, the app-centric model works particularly well on the Mac because
> there is total decoupling between the windows and the app itself, which
> is conceptually represented by the icon in the dock and the changing
> menubar on the top, indicating which app is active at any given time.
> 
> In that kind of setup, it makes sense that closing all the windows
> doesn't close the app as well, because an app doesn't necessarily need
> to have windows at all.  I agree it is not essential, but it makes sense
> that you dont' have to restart the app if e.g. you are done reading a
> document and want to open a different one (close document window, select
> file -> open...).
> 
> On the other hand, it's hard to imitate this strictly app-centric model
> in GNOME because we don't have the dock, and also the menubar is
> embedded in the windows, which makes decoupling the app from its windows
> difficult.  For example, you can't handle the case where the app is
> running but it has no windows.
> 
> I do like the Mac way better though...

Well, it's not to late to change to the mac way. Why don't we go ahead
and to it? It would be a lot of work, but the benifit would be that we'd
have a clear application vs. document model (and user's would be able to
work with both at once). Apple has several good arguments for the way
they do things, and there's no reason we can't follow their lead.

> 
> -- Ettore
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Wesley Leggette <wleggette gate net>