Am Sat, 11 Jul 2009 10:08:15 +0200 schrieb Christopher Roy Bratusek <zanghar freenet de>: > Am Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:29:48 +0900 (JST) > schrieb Teika Kazura <teika lavabit com>: > > > Hi, dear sawfish lovers. Thank you for your words. > > > > On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 19:42:12 +0200, Christopher Roy Bratusek wrote: > > >> I wonder if you could prepare, say, a checklist of release > > >> procedure. > > > > > > Well, this checklist does (imaginarly) exist, but is not failsafe > > > [...] But of course you're right, that this should not happen > > > again. > > > > I see, thank you for your effort. > > > > >> Just a delay of two weeks or so can make [news readability] far > > >> better. > > > I'm sorry Teika, I wanted to do the release finally, as it already > > > delayed 4/5 weeks. [...] 1.6.0 is definitively to be released on > > > the 22nd of December, so feature freeze is end of November and we > > > can then better handle stuff like that. > > > > Deadline makes the progress, yes, but why do you care so much? Is > > gnome inter-operatability related? There're (almost) always > > Has nothing to do with GNOME, don't longer care about those, GNOME is > released in March/September, Sawfish in July/December. I'm also > thinking on moving to sf.net, but not now and this deserves an extra > thread. > > > competition between release earliness and quality, and the solution > > depends. > > Well one month Featurefreeze should be enough to concentrate on better > quality, as new features in sawfish are normally not that ugly, "just" > need rework (tabs, infinite-desktop(I'll take care of this one)). > > > Anyway, we learn from experience. So let's hope that we'll do > > better next time. > > > > With settling a releasedate I hope to make it better. > > > >> Popularity is the power. Some reports, what's good and bad (or > > >> bugs). They help. Some subscribe ML. A few contribute in ML. A > > >> few of few develops. > > >> > > >> Anyway, thanks a lot for all. I was happy when I knew Sawfish was > > >> resurrected. Now we see a boom come. Another will come. > > > > > > A boom? You mean much more Sawfish users? Sorry, but if you're > > > thinking this way, I think you're wrong: > > > > You're right. I meant zoom, gee, wow, by "boom" ;) > > > > > Oh well, and in the last half year there have more unsubscriptions > > > than subscriptions, but more users are monitoring > > > librep/rep-gtk/sawfish on sf.net, the IRC is pratically dead (I > > > only have had 2 (in words: two) discussions there the last half > > > year), so I would say: The userbase did not change that much. > > > > This is I, and perhaps many wanted to know. Not great, but not bad. > > > > What about a monthly meeting @ the IRC? Just to talk about thoughts, > ideas, blah? This way we also might do 1.6 better than 1.5 (which by > the way has not been so bad, to talk in that way about it ^_^) > We may also record the discussion and post that record to the ML, IRC is just faster and more comfortable :) @ Janeck: could you update the IRC Channels header? (and s/try out/see also/ in fron of -mmc as it does not work together with recent librep releases (they no longer include that gnome cruft)) > > > This may sound pesimistic, but: I absolutely don't care how many > > > users are using Sawfish, for me it's the Ultimate Windowmanager, > > > regardless of anyone else, so you don't have to fear to get rid of > > > me :p > > > > Chris and I don't share taste here, but Chris' attitude is one of > > what promotes free softwares. (Of course I agree it's best-of-best.) > > > > Well, of course I'm happy when we get more users and 'cause of my > MetaCity/Mutter flaming, I'm already known as the "Sawfish-Troll" on > pro-linux.de ^_^; > > > Regards, > > Teika (Teika kazura) > > > > > -- In a world without walls and fences, who needs Windows and Gates?
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