Re: clipboard

[GSR - FR <famrom infernal-iceberg com>]

Hi,
nano-master gmx de (2009-01-12 at 0830.06 +0100):
> Am Sonntag, den 11.01.2009, 21:36 -0500 schrieb Rodrigo Amestica:
> 
> > I desktop is gnome. I always have problems with the clipboard. When I select in 
> > emacs or in xterm I cannot copy the selection into thunderbird or similar 
> > applications.

No idea what do you have in your configs, but here I can still select
and paste like I have been doing since I discovered this feature in
X11. Only explicit change I remember doing is setting FF MB2 paste to
work as load primary selection as URL.

> > Today I noticed that there is a script names selection-push.jl and I thought 
> > that perhaps this would be the consolidated solution for the clipboard. But the 
> > script does not even load properly because sawfish.wm.util.selection does not 
> > seem to be there any more (sawfish 1.3.4).
> > 
> > Is there any advise on which direction I should look for a proper clipboard 
> > management? Having a working clipboard is so essential for a painless day that I 
> > cannot understand why is that it does not work for me just out of the box.
> > 
> > thanks,
> >   Rodrigo
> 
> 
> Normally you select text from the console and press the middle
> mouse-button to insert it. This is done by X.Org (or XFree86),
> and there's context menu -> copy (then context menu -> paste) this is
> the GTK+ clipboard. So it's either a GTK+ or X.org
> Problem.

The typical issue is mixing primary (select text, paste with MB2 or
any other "non standard" keybinding that requests that selection) with
clipboard (user selects something then copies/cuts by menu and pastes
by menu, or keybinding assigned to that menu entries... and this works
with images, etc). http://www.jwz.org/doc/x-cut-and-paste.html

Or from another point of view: clipboard works via menus (or
associated keybindings), and can copy and paste near anything the apps
support, like in MSWindows and MacOSX. It can even allow replacing by
"select, copy, select, paste". Primary is just a comfortable "drag and
drop" (no need of holding any button down) for text and only text, but
a great time saver in some situations when you know it.

In conclusion... I wonder what you all are talking about. If X11
selection feature is removed (or sloppy focus support or ...), the
noise ins lists, forums, etc would had been more than noticeable. ;]

GSR