Key binding hierarchy
- From: Teika Kazura <teika lavabit com>
- To: sawfish-list gnome org
- Subject: Key binding hierarchy
- Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 20:51:41 +0900 (JST)
Hi.
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 14:54:24 +0100, Vegard Vesterheim wrote:
> I have been pondering a bit on the subject on global vs. local
> keyboard bindings, and I have come to realize that there are quite a
> few levels to consider. Basic functionality like 'keyboard
> navigation' takes place on several layers. One way to subdivide this
> hierarchy is this:
>
> - Virtual Consoles (Alt-Fn in Linux)
> - Virtual desktops within a Console (window manager)
> - Windows within a virtual desktop (window manager)
> - Windows within windows (firefox tabs, terminals tabs, emacs frames)
> - Menues within a tab/window
> - Menu entries within a menu
> - Tabs within a window/form (GtkNotebook)
> - Fields within a form (X11, gtk, HTML forms, HREFs in webpage)
> - Values within a field (radiobuttons)
> - Characters within a Field (possibly multi-line/fullscreen, emacs)
Your classification is valuable and worth keeping. Thanks.
At the same time, there's no 'solution by clear-cut boundaries'.
You seem to beware that levels intertwine, and it's one of the reasons.
Others I noticed are:
* Each software arbitrarily defines its own bindings. Some of them,
say Microsoft's Win/Office, are so influential, but their ways are
too often really bad. Not or hardly configurable, awkward for
fingers, etc.
* Each platform has its own key design. Some softwares are
cross-platform, so their key spec has to support them all. I
remember some doc of emacs, X11 or firefox says "If you think it is
too complicated, then you're right." But the fact is it can't be helped.
> Personally I have developed muscle-memory for most emacs
> keybindings, so I keep trying to reuse those in other
> applications. The extreme flexibility and extensibility in sawfish
> is one of the reasons I am still using it.
My situation & solution are close to yours. We love sawfish.
> I would like to see a clever suggestion on how to handle keyboard
> navigation across these levels.
Find guru(s) on the web. You can do it, if you're lucky. ;)
How about this? (Mainly on emacs):
http://m17n.org/ntakahas/npx/aggressive/index.en.html
> I guess we need more modifiers on our keyboards...
Yeah.
Teika (Teika kazura)
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