Re: [orca-list] Continual reading problem

[Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com>]

Hi Vojta, all.

I can confirm what you're seeing. I did a quick test in Gedit.

What Orca does is ask the app/toolkit for the current sentence, then
the next, then the next, etc. Gtk (and possibly other toolkits) is
treating a newline as a sentence end. I can see how that would be
annoying. However, just ignoring what Gtk (and possibly others) report
as a sentence might lead to undesired SayAll behavior elsewhere. For
instance, what if the text is not a book, but list of items, one per
line? If  Orca combined all that into a single SayAll sentence, it
might sound like gibberish. So we need to find a way to reliably
identify when a newline character is a sentence boundary versus when it
isn't -- despite what the app or toolkit tells us.

Suggestions welcomed.
--joanie

On Sat, 2022-01-15 at 13:56 +0100, Vojtech šmiro via orca-list wrote:
> Hello,
>
> by sentence.
>
> Best regards
>
> Vojta.
>
> Dne 15. 01. 22 v 13:37 Joanmarie Diggs napsal(a):
> > Are you doing say all by line or by sentence (in your Orca prefs)?
> > --joanie
> >
> > On Sat, 2022-01-15 at 12:33 +0100, Vojtech šmiro via orca-list
> > wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I have the following problem with continual reading of some
> > > texts.
> > >
> > > I am registered in library for the visually impaired persons.
> > > There
> > > are
> > > scanned books from volunteers, but some books have problem. Some
> > > words
> > > are divided not by space, but by enter key. I will write you
> > > example.
> > >
> > > Begin of the example
> > > This is a test. In this test I will
> > > show you, how are books
> > > wrote.
> > > End of the example
> > >
> > > Windows users don't have problems with this. But Orca makes
> > > really
> > > long
> > > space, when is enter key after words, not space. Please, is some
> > > way
> > > to
> > > repair it? Windows screenreaders ignores enters and don't do that
> > > long
> > > space during reading.
> > >
> > > Thanks a lot.
> > >
> > > Best regards
> > >
> > > Vojta.
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