Re: [orca-list] Continual reading problem

[Milton <milton duurzaamdigitaal org>]

Hi,

I like the way Orca is currently reading, I clearly can hear when Orca 
reads a list.

Milton

Op 17-01-2022 om 15:13 schreef Joanmarie Diggs:
> Hi Vojta, all.
>
> I can confirm what you're seeing. I did a quick test in Gedit.
>
> What Orca does is ask the app/toolkit for the current sentence, then
> the next, then the next, etc. Gtk (and possibly other toolkits) is
> treating a newline as a sentence end. I can see how that would be
> annoying. However, just ignoring what Gtk (and possibly others) report
> as a sentence might lead to undesired SayAll behavior elsewhere. For
> instance, what if the text is not a book, but list of items, one per
> line? If  Orca combined all that into a single SayAll sentence, it
> might sound like gibberish. So we need to find a way to reliably
> identify when a newline character is a sentence boundary versus when it
> isn't -- despite what the app or toolkit tells us.
>
> Suggestions welcomed.
> --joanie
>
> On Sat, 2022-01-15 at 13:56 +0100, Vojtech šmiro via orca-list wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > by sentence.
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> > Vojta.
> >
> > Dne 15. 01. 22 v 13:37 Joanmarie Diggs napsal(a):
> > > Are you doing say all by line or by sentence (in your Orca prefs)?
> > > --joanie
> > >
> > > On Sat, 2022-01-15 at 12:33 +0100, Vojtech šmiro via orca-list
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > I have the following problem with continual reading of some
> > > > texts.
> > > >
> > > > I am registered in library for the visually impaired persons.
> > > > There
> > > > are
> > > > scanned books from volunteers, but some books have problem. Some
> > > > words
> > > > are divided not by space, but by enter key. I will write you
> > > > example.
> > > >
> > > > Begin of the example
> > > > This is a test. In this test I will
> > > > show you, how are books
> > > > wrote.
> > > > End of the example
> > > >
> > > > Windows users don't have problems with this. But Orca makes
> > > > really
> > > > long
> > > > space, when is enter key after words, not space. Please, is some
> > > > way
> > > > to
> > > > repair it? Windows screenreaders ignores enters and don't do that
> > > > long
> > > > space during reading.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks a lot.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards
> > > >
> > > > Vojta.
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