Re: [orca-list] Dualbooting Linux and Windows



I'm 99% sure either that or it's done for you. I dunno, I did the setup and hand installed and set everything 
up to the point where I could just fire up Strychnine and have that do its thing to set it all up for me

On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 10:24:44AM -0500, Devin Prater wrote:
Hmm, okay, so all you have to do after using the Arch install is install
alsa-utils and espeakup right? And then set the accessibility stuff in
.xinitrc or .profile right? That sound easy enough.
Devin Prater
r d t prater gmail com




On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 10:20 AM Jace Kattalakis via orca-list <
orca-list gnome org> wrote:

Well, the Arch guided installer sets up desktops for you and gives you a
menu of what to install, desktop, server, minimal and has common desktops
(Mate, Gnome, Cinnamon, KDE, et al) as well and does all the heavy lifting,
plus it's trivial to install Orca or Orca-master there.

Also good catch, I didn't know about the direct hardware thing, which has
pretty much made me a qemu fan over virtualbox. Now if I can get Vagrant to
play nice with qemu...

I'm not sure if the new installer's in the latest Mate release, the beta
for 22.04 honestly, I've not tried it out yet

On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 09:53:46AM -0500, Devin Prater wrote:
Wow, that's was quick, and sounds pretty good. My excuses for not jumping
to Arch or something are dwindling. Ubuntu though... Maybe now that their
installer is fixed... Is it fixed in the current Mate release? Then
again,
Arch and the... Nah, I don't feel like setting all that up. Yeah, Ubuntu
sounds good. Or maybe Mint to get rid of Snaps.
Devin Prater
r d t prater gmail com




On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 9:50 AM Jace Kattalakis via orca-list <
orca-list gnome org> wrote:

Welll, I just spun up an Ubuntu test VM and there's no crackling of
Orca
or slow responsivness on my system with decentish specs, and through my
wired USB headphones it's snappy and quick to respond.

And yes, Orca starts up without crackling here on qemu, whereas with
VMWare/Virtualbox, crackling and clipping, but there's none on
quickemu.
I'm not sure how Wimpy managed it or i it's something inherent in qemu,
but...it's a nice refreshing change

On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 09:40:04AM -0500, Devin Prater wrote:
How's the responsiveness? With VmWare, it's like I'm using Bluetooth
headphones, even when using wired headphones.
Devin Prater
r d t prater gmail com




On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 6:54 AM Jace Kattalakis via orca-list <
orca-list gnome org> wrote:

Those dependancies are, off the top of my head...and may be
differently
named on Debian vs Arch...

qemu, jq, edk2-ovmf (at least that's what I need to get it running
on
Arch)

As said it's a set of scripts that wrap around qemu to make it
work.
quickget then the OS and version you want pulls that down and does
all
the
heavy lifting for you, then quickemu --vm vm.conf should start up
that
VM
that was created.

On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 01:15:52PM +0200, Peter Vágner via
orca-list
wrote:
Hello,
Quickemu is a set of bash scripts so given the fact all the
dependencies
are
installed it can just be downloaded or cloned off of github.
See its project page.
https://github.com/quickemu-project/quickemu

P


Dňa 20. 4. 2022 o 1:42 Devin Prater via orca-list napísal(a):
Thanks all for the info. I don't think Debian has Quickemu.
Hmm,
may be
a good time to try the Arch installer thing that came out...
Last
year?
Devin Prater
r d t prater gmail com




On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 4:11 PM Dave Hunt via orca-list
<orca-list gnome org> wrote:

    efibootmgr is a command that is run from the terminal.  The
    command line
    switch of greatest importance to this topic is
"--bootorder",
    which is
    followed by a comma-separated list of the boot devices, in
the
    order in
    which you want to try them.  You'll also need to know the
numbers
    your
    system has assigned to the bootable devices.  To get this,
type

    "sudo efibootmgr", with no command line switches.  You may
want to
    redirect the output to a pager or a text file, for easier
reading.



    HTH,



    Dave  H.




    On 4/19/22 17:00, Guy Schlosser via orca-list wrote:
    > Rob, is that a command that can be run from terminal? Is
it
    accessible doing it that way? Thank you for the tip.
    >
    > Guy
    >
    >
    > JAWS Certified, 2021,
    https://www.freedomscientific.com/Training/Certification
    >
    >> On Apr 19, 2022, at 11:31 AM, Rob Hudson via orca-list
    <orca-list gnome org> wrote:
    >>
    >> You can also set boot order on UEFI with efibootmgr.
No née
    for the f12 dance.
    >>
    >> ----- Original Message -----
    >> From: Guy Schlosser via orca-list <orca-list gnome org>
    >> To: Devin Prater <r d t prater gmail com>
    >> Cc: orca-list <orca-list gnome org>
    >> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2022 11:01:21 -0400
    >> Subject: Re: [orca-list] Dualbooting Linux and Windows
    >>
    >>> Hey Devin,
    >>>
    >>> You are absolutely correct. Do a booting is much
easier on
    UEFI systems. I do it, and switching between operating
systems
is
    very easy. My motherboard actually has a boot option for
the
Linux
    partition. Therefore, it is very easy once the system
starts
up,
    to press F 12 and down arrow once if I want windows. Since
most
    motherboards don’t have this though, you would simply have
to
    count the number of times you have to press  the down-arrow
key to
    go between Linux and windows. In most cases, the bottom
option
    gets you into your bios, so getting yourself there an up
arrowing
    once usually does the trick. If you have any further
questions,
    feel free to ask.
    >>>
    >>> Guy
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> JAWS Certified, 2021,
    https://www.freedomscientific.com/Training/Certification
    >>>
    >>>>> On Apr 19, 2022, at 6:37 AM, Devin Prater via
orca-list
    <orca-list gnome org> wrote:
    >>>> ?
    >>>> Hi all. I have no idea why I keep doing this to
myself,
but
    my SSD (NVME) has enough space to where I think I could
easily
    dualboot Windows and Linux. It's not running BIOS, it
either
has
    EFI or UEFI, and from what I've read, dualbooting is far
easier on
    that. So, does anyone dualboot here? If so, how easy is it
to
    switch between the operating systems? I'm planning on
starting
    with Debian, since its accessibility stuff is just, already
    preconfigured. Maybe the stability of Debian will mean a
lot
less
    crashes than Fedora 35.
    >>>> Devin Prater
    >>>> r d t prater gmail com
    >>>>
    >>>>
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