Re: [orca-list] Dualbooting Linux and Windows

[Devin Prater <r d t prater gmail com>]

Hmm, okay, so all you have to do after using the Arch install is install alsa-utils and espeakup right? And then set the accessibility stuff in .xinitrc or .profile right? That sound easy enough.

Devin Prater

r d t prater gmail com

On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 10:20 AM Jace Kattalakis via orca-list <orca-list gnome org> wrote:

Well, the Arch guided installer sets up desktops for you and gives you a menu of what to install, desktop, server, minimal and has common desktops (Mate, Gnome, Cinnamon, KDE, et al) as well and does all the heavy lifting, plus it's trivial to install Orca or Orca-master there.

Also good catch, I didn't know about the direct hardware thing, which has pretty much made me a qemu fan over virtualbox. Now if I can get Vagrant to play nice with qemu...

I'm not sure if the new installer's in the latest Mate release, the beta for 22.04 honestly, I've not tried it out yet

On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 09:53:46AM -0500, Devin Prater wrote:
> Wow, that's was quick, and sounds pretty good. My excuses for not jumping
> to Arch or something are dwindling. Ubuntu though... Maybe now that their
> installer is fixed... Is it fixed in the current Mate release? Then again,
> Arch and the... Nah, I don't feel like setting all that up. Yeah, Ubuntu
> sounds good. Or maybe Mint to get rid of Snaps.
> Devin Prater
> r d t prater gmail com
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 9:50 AM Jace Kattalakis via orca-list <
> orca-list gnome org> wrote:
>
> > Welll, I just spun up an Ubuntu test VM and there's no crackling of Orca
> > or slow responsivness on my system with decentish specs, and through my
> > wired USB headphones it's snappy and quick to respond.
> >
> > And yes, Orca starts up without crackling here on qemu, whereas with
> > VMWare/Virtualbox, crackling and clipping, but there's none on quickemu.
> > I'm not sure how Wimpy managed it or i it's something inherent in qemu,
> > but...it's a nice refreshing change
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 09:40:04AM -0500, Devin Prater wrote:
> > > How's the responsiveness? With VmWare, it's like I'm using Bluetooth
> > > headphones, even when using wired headphones.
> > > Devin Prater
> > > r d t prater gmail com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 6:54 AM Jace Kattalakis via orca-list <
> > > orca-list gnome org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Those dependancies are, off the top of my head...and may be differently
> > > > named on Debian vs Arch...
> > > >
> > > > qemu, jq, edk2-ovmf (at least that's what I need to get it running on
> > Arch)
> > > >
> > > > As said it's a set of scripts that wrap around qemu to make it work.
> > > > quickget then the OS and version you want pulls that down and does all
> > the
> > > > heavy lifting for you, then quickemu --vm vm.conf should start up that
> > VM
> > > > that was created.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 01:15:52PM +0200, Peter Vágner via orca-list
> > wrote:
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > > Quickemu is a set of bash scripts so given the fact all the
> > dependencies
> > > > are
> > > > > installed it can just be downloaded or cloned off of github.
> > > > > See its project page.
> > > > > https://github.com/quickemu-project/quickemu
> > > > >
> > > > > P
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Dňa 20. 4. 2022 o 1:42 Devin Prater via orca-list napísal(a):
> > > > > > Thanks all for the info. I don't think Debian has Quickemu. Hmm,
> > may be
> > > > > > a good time to try the Arch installer thing that came out... Last
> > year?
> > > > > > Devin Prater
> > > > > > r d t prater gmail com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 4:11 PM Dave Hunt via orca-list
> > > > > > <orca-list gnome org> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     efibootmgr is a command that is run from the terminal.  The
> > > > > >     command line
> > > > > >     switch of greatest importance to this topic is "--bootorder",
> > > > > >     which is
> > > > > >     followed by a comma-separated list of the boot devices, in the
> > > > > >     order in
> > > > > >     which you want to try them.  You'll also need to know the
> > numbers
> > > > > >     your
> > > > > >     system has assigned to the bootable devices.  To get this, type
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     "sudo efibootmgr", with no command line switches.  You may
> > want to
> > > > > >     redirect the output to a pager or a text file, for easier
> > reading.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     HTH,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     Dave  H.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     On 4/19/22 17:00, Guy Schlosser via orca-list wrote:
> > > > > >     > Rob, is that a command that can be run from terminal? Is it
> > > > > >     accessible doing it that way? Thank you for the tip.
> > > > > >     >
> > > > > >     > Guy
> > > > > >     >
> > > > > >     >
> > > > > >     > JAWS Certified, 2021,
> > > > > >     https://www.freedomscientific.com/Training/Certification
> > > > > >     >
> > > > > >     >> On Apr 19, 2022, at 11:31 AM, Rob Hudson via orca-list
> > > > > >     <orca-list gnome org> wrote:
> > > > > >     >>
> > > > > >     >> You can also set boot order on UEFI with efibootmgr. No née
> > > > > >     for the f12 dance.
> > > > > >     >>
> > > > > >     >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >     >> From: Guy Schlosser via orca-list <orca-list gnome org>
> > > > > >     >> To: Devin Prater <r d t prater gmail com>
> > > > > >     >> Cc: orca-list <orca-list gnome org>
> > > > > >     >> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2022 11:01:21 -0400
> > > > > >     >> Subject: Re: [orca-list] Dualbooting Linux and Windows
> > > > > >     >>
> > > > > >     >>> Hey Devin,
> > > > > >     >>>
> > > > > >     >>> You are absolutely correct. Do a booting is much easier on
> > > > > >     UEFI systems. I do it, and switching between operating systems
> > is
> > > > > >     very easy. My motherboard actually has a boot option for the
> > Linux
> > > > > >     partition. Therefore, it is very easy once the system starts
> > up,
> > > > > >     to press F 12 and down arrow once if I want windows. Since most
> > > > > >     motherboards don’t have this though, you would simply have to
> > > > > >     count the number of times you have to press  the down-arrow
> > key to
> > > > > >     go between Linux and windows. In most cases, the bottom option
> > > > > >     gets you into your bios, so getting yourself there an up
> > arrowing
> > > > > >     once usually does the trick. If you have any further questions,
> > > > > >     feel free to ask.
> > > > > >     >>>
> > > > > >     >>> Guy
> > > > > >     >>>
> > > > > >     >>>
> > > > > >     >>> JAWS Certified, 2021,
> > > > > >     https://www.freedomscientific.com/Training/Certification
> > > > > >     >>>
> > > > > >     >>>>> On Apr 19, 2022, at 6:37 AM, Devin Prater via orca-list
> > > > > >     <orca-list gnome org> wrote:
> > > > > >     >>>> ?
> > > > > >     >>>> Hi all. I have no idea why I keep doing this to myself,
> > but
> > > > > >     my SSD (NVME) has enough space to where I think I could easily
> > > > > >     dualboot Windows and Linux. It's not running BIOS, it either
> > has
> > > > > >     EFI or UEFI, and from what I've read, dualbooting is far
> > easier on
> > > > > >     that. So, does anyone dualboot here? If so, how easy is it to
> > > > > >     switch between the operating systems? I'm planning on starting
> > > > > >     with Debian, since its accessibility stuff is just, already
> > > > > >     preconfigured. Maybe the stability of Debian will mean a lot
> > less
> > > > > >     crashes than Fedora 35.
> > > > > >     >>>> Devin Prater
> > > > > >     >>>> r d t prater gmail com
> > > > > >     >>>>
> > > > > >     >>>>
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