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Ok, I have an initial proposal which I just landed in Orca master, namely: If you have enabled the spoken presentation of indentation and justification, Orca will announce the crossing of hard line boundaries. But if you have this setting off, Orca will not speak it. This makes total sense in my head. <smiles> Let's see if it does in everyone else's. And because speaking indentation and justification are disabled by default, most users will just get the new behavior.
Anyhoo, please give it a spin and let me know what you think. Thanks again! --joanie
On Tue, 2020-11-03 at 15:58 +0530, Krishnakant Mane via orca-list wrote:
Even I agree with this.
It may sound like a minor delay, but yes it does break the link
or flow of work given that hearing is serial in nature unline
vision.
On 03/11/20 3:57 pm, Nimer Jaber via
orca-list wrote:
I do believe the behavior should be changed, as it
does slow navigating down when I have to hear new line at the
beginning of a word. Thanks.
Hi Rastislav, all.
Presenting hard carriage returns when crossed during word
navigation is
a long-standing Orca feature. Maybe one which shouldn't have
been
added, but I'm hesitant to change it without additional
feedback from
the community.
Note that this only happens when Enter/Return was pressed to
force a
newline; it shouldn't happen if the text wrapped
automatically.
Anyhoo, what do others think?
Thanks for testing, and the feedback!
--joanie
On Mon, 2020-11-02 at 16:43 +0000, Rastislav Kish via
orca-list wrote:
> Hello Joanie,
>
> I have just pulled the master and tested the changes. It
works
> really
> great, although I'll probably never understand why does
Linux treat
> punctuation as words, but when it already does so,
reading it is the
> correct behavior imo.
>
>
> Thanks for this change. There is just one thing I would
like to add.
> If
> there are two lines, and the secondone begins with a
word, when
> navigating by words, blank line is spoken first on that
place when
> crossing from the first line and just after that, the
word is
> announced.
>
> Could be possibly something done about this? When I'm
reading a text
> by
> words, it slows down the reading, as I either have to
listen to the
> whole phrase, or pass it and return from another side to
hear the
> word.
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Best regards
>
>
> Rastislav
>
>
> Dňa 29. 10. 2020 o 17:16 Joanmarie Diggs napísal(a):
> > Hey all.
> >
> > I just landed a change in Orca master which is
designed to improve
> > what
> > Orca says when you use native app navigation by
word. In other
> > words,
> > when you press Ctrl+Left/Right *and* Orca is not
controlling the
> > caret.
> > So that means Gedit/Pluma, Firefox and Chromium in
focus mode, etc.
> > The
> > changes should not impact browse mode nor
LibreOffice.
> >
> > The problem I was/am trying to address is what
happens when you're
> > navigating by word around punctuation and other
symbols. In those
> > instances, where the app moves you when you press
Ctrl+Left/Right
> > doesn't match what ATK/AT-SPI2 reports for the word
at your new
> > location. This mismatch can cause Orca to repeat
some parts of the
> > "word" or not speak other parts. Hopefully that's
better now in
> > Orca
> > master.
> >
> > Please give it a spin and let me know what you
think.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > --joanie
> >
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