Re: [orca-list] Odd issue with the Riot web client

[Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com>]

It looks like the Riot authors were creating a placeholder-like 
experience with actual elements which Orca was treating like real entry 
text and getting confused. This is now working for me. Please test and 
let me know.

Thanks!
--joanie

On 1/9/20 9:58 AM, Nolan Darilek wrote:
> Any chance this might get looked into again?
>
>
> FWIW, Mozilla is abandoning IRC for Matrix, so Riot is about to become 
> an indispensable tool for anyone interacting via chat in the Mozilla 
> ecosystem. They've also been actively working on accessibility and have 
> a good and improving NVDA story. I say that not to pit Orca against 
> NVDA, but rather to note that they're really trying to fix their 
> accessibility issues.
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> On 11/15/19 8:53 AM, Nolan Darilek wrote:
> > OK, was mistaken. The failure case is a bit different, but when I type 
> > into the field under Chromium, I can't arrow up past the previous 
> > message. This is under Chromium 78, which I was just upgraded to.
> >
> >
> > And yes yes, before you yell at me, I'm interested in this more as 
> > what now appears to be a cross-browser bug with slightly different 
> > behaviors, not as a Chromium issue. :) I just want this to work 
> > somewhere--I don't much care where.
> >
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> > On 11/13/19 5:52 PM, Nolan Darilek wrote:
> > > FWIW, I finally installed Chromium, and this doesn't happen with 
> > > Chromium 77.0.3865.120 Fedora Project and Orca master. So seems 
> > > specific to Firefox.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 11/5/19 3:05 PM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> > > > I can reproduce this. It looks like an Orca bug. I'm still debugging 
> > > > it, but will hopefully have it fixed before too long. I don't think 
> > > > it's a regression though. Or if it is, it's super old. I went back 
> > > > to Orca 3.30 and the problem happens there....
> > > >
> > > > On 11/1/19 11:29 AM, Nolan Darilek wrote:
> > > > > Hey folks,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The Riot developers have been pouring lots of effort recently into 
> > > > > making their web-based Matrix client accessible. But I'm 
> > > > > experiencing a pretty significant issue with their new text entry 
> > > > > system for messages that they can't duplicate under NVDA. I'm 
> > > > > wondering if any Orca users are seeing the same, and if this can be 
> > > > > diagnosed as either a Firefox/Orca issue under Linux, or as 
> > > > > something they aren't doing correctly on their end. To test, you'll 
> > > > > need a Matrix account. Once you have one and are logged in, visit 
> > > > > this instance with accessibility improvements:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > https://riots.im/adhoc/a11y
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Join a room or chat. You'll probably be automatically focused into 
> > > > > the message input field and put in focus mode. Once there, enter 
> > > > > browse mode and try arrowing up.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Apparently, NVDA handles this use case fine both in the 
> > > > > accessibility build and the development build at riot.im/develop. 
> > > > > Orca, on the other hand, won't let me arrow up. I hear "Newline," 
> > > > > followed by some buttons, and focus lands back in the message entry 
> > > > > field. The only way to escape this field is to enter browse mode 
> > > > > and use b/B/h/some other quick navigation key, then hope you don't 
> > > > > land back in the mud. Happens under Orca master as of a few minutes 
> > > > > ago and Firefox nightly as of a few days ago, but it's happened for 
> > > > > a bit now so I don't think it's a bleeding-edge regression. 
> > > > > Apologies for not reporting it--been a bit busy and it hasn't been 
> > > > > high enough priority for me.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Is there any actionable feedback I can give the Riot folks to fix 
> > > > > this? They're pretty actively looking for feedback in the 
> > > > > #a11y:matrix.org room, so if you're Matrix-inclined and want to 
> > > > > give it then there is the best place, or I'll happily relay it 
> > > > > otherwise.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks a bunch.
> > > > >
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