Re: [orca-list] Odd issue with the Riot web client

[Nolan Darilek <nolan thewordnerd info>]

Any chance this might get looked into again?


FWIW, Mozilla is abandoning IRC for Matrix, so Riot is about to become 
an indispensable tool for anyone interacting via chat in the Mozilla 
ecosystem. They've also been actively working on accessibility and have 
a good and improving NVDA story. I say that not to pit Orca against 
NVDA, but rather to note that they're really trying to fix their 
accessibility issues.


Thanks.



On 11/15/19 8:53 AM, Nolan Darilek wrote:
> OK, was mistaken. The failure case is a bit different, but when I type 
> into the field under Chromium, I can't arrow up past the previous 
> message. This is under Chromium 78, which I was just upgraded to.
>
>
> And yes yes, before you yell at me, I'm interested in this more as 
> what now appears to be a cross-browser bug with slightly different 
> behaviors, not as a Chromium issue. :) I just want this to work 
> somewhere--I don't much care where.
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> On 11/13/19 5:52 PM, Nolan Darilek wrote:
> > FWIW, I finally installed Chromium, and this doesn't happen with 
> > Chromium 77.0.3865.120 Fedora Project and Orca master. So seems 
> > specific to Firefox.
> >
> >
> > On 11/5/19 3:05 PM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> > > I can reproduce this. It looks like an Orca bug. I'm still debugging 
> > > it, but will hopefully have it fixed before too long. I don't think 
> > > it's a regression though. Or if it is, it's super old. I went back 
> > > to Orca 3.30 and the problem happens there....
> > >
> > > On 11/1/19 11:29 AM, Nolan Darilek wrote:
> > > > Hey folks,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The Riot developers have been pouring lots of effort recently into 
> > > > making their web-based Matrix client accessible. But I'm 
> > > > experiencing a pretty significant issue with their new text entry 
> > > > system for messages that they can't duplicate under NVDA. I'm 
> > > > wondering if any Orca users are seeing the same, and if this can be 
> > > > diagnosed as either a Firefox/Orca issue under Linux, or as 
> > > > something they aren't doing correctly on their end. To test, you'll 
> > > > need a Matrix account. Once you have one and are logged in, visit 
> > > > this instance with accessibility improvements:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > https://riots.im/adhoc/a11y
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Join a room or chat. You'll probably be automatically focused into 
> > > > the message input field and put in focus mode. Once there, enter 
> > > > browse mode and try arrowing up.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Apparently, NVDA handles this use case fine both in the 
> > > > accessibility build and the development build at riot.im/develop. 
> > > > Orca, on the other hand, won't let me arrow up. I hear "Newline," 
> > > > followed by some buttons, and focus lands back in the message entry 
> > > > field. The only way to escape this field is to enter browse mode 
> > > > and use b/B/h/some other quick navigation key, then hope you don't 
> > > > land back in the mud. Happens under Orca master as of a few minutes 
> > > > ago and Firefox nightly as of a few days ago, but it's happened for 
> > > > a bit now so I don't think it's a bleeding-edge regression. 
> > > > Apologies for not reporting it--been a bit busy and it hasn't been 
> > > > high enough priority for me.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Is there any actionable feedback I can give the Riot folks to fix 
> > > > this? They're pretty actively looking for feedback in the 
> > > > #a11y:matrix.org room, so if you're Matrix-inclined and want to 
> > > > give it then there is the best place, or I'll happily relay it 
> > > > otherwise.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks a bunch.
> > > >
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