Re: [orca-list] Odd issue with the Riot web client
- From: Nolan Darilek <nolan thewordnerd info>
- To: Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com>, Orca <orca-list gnome org>
- Subject: Re: [orca-list] Odd issue with the Riot web client
- Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2020 11:48:49 -0600
Thanks, much appreciated!
On 1/9/20 11:26 AM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
On my list.
--joanie
On 1/9/20 09:58, Nolan Darilek wrote:
Any chance this might get looked into again?
FWIW, Mozilla is abandoning IRC for Matrix, so Riot is about to
become an indispensable tool for anyone interacting via chat in the
Mozilla ecosystem. They've also been actively working on
accessibility and have a good and improving NVDA story. I say that
not to pit Orca against NVDA, but rather to note that they're really
trying to fix their accessibility issues.
Thanks.
On 11/15/19 8:53 AM, Nolan Darilek wrote:
OK, was mistaken. The failure case is a bit different, but when I
type into the field under Chromium, I can't arrow up past the
previous message. This is under Chromium 78, which I was just
upgraded to.
And yes yes, before you yell at me, I'm interested in this more as
what now appears to be a cross-browser bug with slightly different
behaviors, not as a Chromium issue. :) I just want this to work
somewhere--I don't much care where.
Thanks.
On 11/13/19 5:52 PM, Nolan Darilek wrote:
FWIW, I finally installed Chromium, and this doesn't happen with
Chromium 77.0.3865.120 Fedora Project and Orca master. So seems
specific to Firefox.
On 11/5/19 3:05 PM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
I can reproduce this. It looks like an Orca bug. I'm still
debugging it, but will hopefully have it fixed before too long. I
don't think it's a regression though. Or if it is, it's super old.
I went back to Orca 3.30 and the problem happens there....
On 11/1/19 11:29 AM, Nolan Darilek wrote:
Hey folks,
The Riot developers have been pouring lots of effort recently
into making their web-based Matrix client accessible. But I'm
experiencing a pretty significant issue with their new text entry
system for messages that they can't duplicate under NVDA. I'm
wondering if any Orca users are seeing the same, and if this can
be diagnosed as either a Firefox/Orca issue under Linux, or as
something they aren't doing correctly on their end. To test,
you'll need a Matrix account. Once you have one and are logged
in, visit this instance with accessibility improvements:
https://riots.im/adhoc/a11y
Join a room or chat. You'll probably be automatically focused
into the message input field and put in focus mode. Once there,
enter browse mode and try arrowing up.
Apparently, NVDA handles this use case fine both in the
accessibility build and the development build at riot.im/develop.
Orca, on the other hand, won't let me arrow up. I hear "Newline,"
followed by some buttons, and focus lands back in the message
entry field. The only way to escape this field is to enter browse
mode and use b/B/h/some other quick navigation key, then hope you
don't land back in the mud. Happens under Orca master as of a few
minutes ago and Firefox nightly as of a few days ago, but it's
happened for a bit now so I don't think it's a bleeding-edge
regression. Apologies for not reporting it--been a bit busy and
it hasn't been high enough priority for me.
Is there any actionable feedback I can give the Riot folks to fix
this? They're pretty actively looking for feedback in the
#a11y:matrix.org room, so if you're Matrix-inclined and want to
give it then there is the best place, or I'll happily relay it
otherwise.
Thanks a bunch.
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