Emacspeak on Mac does use the Mac's Tts. Just make config, make emacspeak, and put
(load-file "tilde /emacspeak/lisp/emacspeak-setup.el")
in your .emacs.el file, replacing tilde with the actual character. Sorry, I don't know the UEB symbol for it, I'm using Braille Screen Input on the iPhone for this message.
Any maintenance of the Mac or eSpeak server is very welcome, though.
From: orca-list <orca-list-bounces gnome org> on behalf of Les Smithson via orca-list <orca-list gnome org>
Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2019 9:49 AM
To: covici ccs covici com
Cc: Orca
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Using Emacs under Orca
I'm quite sure emacspeak works on a Mac. At least there seem to be
plenty of Mac users on the emacspeak mailing list.
John Covici writes: > The
problem is that emacspeak never had this functionality, otherwise > I
would use that, what I was hoping for and maybe I will see if I can >
modify to use the speech server the mac has -- that would be cool.
>
> On Sun, 03 Mar 2019 10:03:18 -0500,
> Peter Vágner wrote:
> >
> > [1 <text/plain; utf-8 (quoted-printable)>]
> > [2 <text/html; utf-8 (quoted-printable)>]
> > Hello,
> >
> > It requires either speech-dispatcher or espeak.
> > Espeak can definatelly be used on the mac, speech-dispatcher I am not sure can run on mac.
> > So if you are fine using that reader with espeak, you can very likelly make it work.
> > I assume emacspeak also has say all functionality but I'm not using it so I don't know the details.
> >
> > Greetings
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > Dňa March 3, 2019 10:12:41 AM UTC používateľ John Covici <covici ccs covici com> napísal:
> >
> > Sounds interesting. I wonder if I could it with emacspeak as well, or
> > even use it with emacspeak on the mac, like the program written by
> > spivey for the mac terminal? If this is off topic you can write me
> > privately.
> >
> > On Sun, 03 Mar 2019 01:49:59 -0500,
> > Peter Vágner wrote:
> >
> > [1 <text/plain; utf-8 (quoted-printable)>]
> > [2 <text/html; utf-8 (quoted-printable)>]
> > Hello,
> >
> > Speechd-el can read the entire buffer however it does not sync caret with the reading position.
> > So there is really no way to pause, do something else and then continue from where you have paused.
> >
> > As a workaround there is this text reader for emacs https://github.com/michelangelo-rodriguez/greader
> >
> > Greetings
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > Dňa March 2, 2019 2:44:47 AM UTC používateľ John Covici <covici ccs covici com> napísal:
> >
> > Will speech-el allow to read a long text buffer and stop reading and
> > have the cursor be at the place where you stopped -- emacspeak does
> > not allow this and so I have been using speakup for this, but it would
> > be nice if I could use emacs under a gui environment with orca and
> > even the mac and have this work properly.
> >
> > On Fri, 01 Mar 2019 19:49:05 -0500,
> > Will Estes via orca-list wrote:
> >
> > I've not done a lot in lisp -- excluding my init file(s) -- but what I've done has been fine. It's generally easy to tell what is going on and emacs has a lot of enabling of lisp features as one might expect.
> >
> > On Friday, 1 March 2019, 6:44 pm -0600, Nolan Darilek <nolan thewordnerd info> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, this is really great info.
> >
> > Does Speechd-el read Lisp well? I remember that being something Emacspeak
> > seemed to do well (I.e. it'd speak things like "2 right parens" when reading
> > Lisp where many screen readers might speak only one paren.) I think one
> > thing that has kept me off Lisp for a while is that it's one of the less
> > accessible languages IMO, and I wondered if I'd like it if it were more
> > approachable.
> >
> > On 3/1/19 6:39 PM, Will Estes wrote:
> >
> > You'll want to use emacs without orca. I use speechd-el because speechd-el takes the approach of letting emacs be emacs whereas emacspeak takes the approach of trying to make emacs do specific things. The difference is
> > that with speechd-el, when you want to use a new feature of emacs (or one of its associated packages), things generally just work. Emacspeak supports a number of things and has its own specific ways of doing and enabling
> > things. That's great when it has what you want but not so much when you go outside of that.
> >
> > These days, there's no reason to look at xemacs.
> >
> > On Friday, 1 March 2019, 6:29 pm -0600, Christopher Chaltain via orca-list <orca-list gnome org> wrote:
> >
> > I'm not sure I understand this statement. XEmacs is an alternative to Emacs,
> > but I'm not sure what use case you're referring to where XEmacs would be the
> > answer and not Emacs.
> >
> > BTW, I use Emacs on the desktop with Emacspeak and not Orca. Of course you
> > could also run it in a terminal or console with Emacspeak. I haven't used
> > Speechd-el, so I can't compare the two. I used to use Emacs with Emacspeak
> > for code development, but it's been a while.
> >
> > On 3/1/19 1:52 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> >
> > xemacs is available as an alternative to emacs for use cases similar to
> > yours if my information is correct.
> >
> > On Fri, 1 Mar 2019, Nolan Darilek wrote:
> >
> > Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2019 09:40:43
> > From: Nolan Darilek <nolan thewordnerd info>
> > To: Orca <orca-list gnome org>
> > Subject: [orca-list] Using Emacs under Orca
> >
> > I've been using VSCode under Windows and am getting a bit spoiled by it. Until
> > we have Electron app support under Linux, I'm considering trying to try
> > getting Emacs working as similarly as I can (I.e. language server interfaces,
> > code completion, etc.)
> >
> > Does anyone have tips for making it work under Orca? Should I just run it in a
> > terminal or is there a GUI interface, or should I turn off Orca and use
> > Emacspeak/Speechd-el?
> >
> > If the latter, which should I use? How do Emacspeak and Speechd-el compare?
> >
> > And is anyone currently doing this and finding it useful? I'm currently just
> > using Gedit for code, but I like the integrated warnings/code completions that
> > language servers provide, and I don't know that Gedit supports this at all.
> >
> > Thanks.
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