Re: [orca-list] Fwd: Please test Orca master with GNOME 3.28

[Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com>]

Hi Alex.

Thanks for testing. I see in a subsequent response that you confirmed my
hackaround works for Gtk+ apps.

Regarding VLC: I saw a similar problem with terminator. I debated
whether or not to hack around it too (it's a different event being
emitted), but I decided against it.

As a reminder: Ignoring important events based on a heuristic is very
fragile. If I get the hack wrong, it means that Orca won't present
potentially important things that screen readers are expected to
present. That would be bad. That doesn't seem worth it to prevent a bit
of chattiness that only occurs in very specific circumstances.

Furthermore, for those who find the chattiness so troublesome, there is
already a safe solution: Press Orca+S to toggle speech off, change the
volume or whatever via the keyboard, then press Orca+S to toggle speech
back on. No chattiness and Orca will continue to do the right thing in
other circumstances.

--joanie

On 1/14/19 4:56 AM, Alex ARNAUD wrote:
> Le 11/01/2019 à 16:25, Joanmarie Diggs a écrit :
> > I'd prefer the most recent, stable (but not broken) GNOME, but sure,
> > I'll take what I can get at this point.
>
> I'm currently testing you're fix about window title announcement with
> VLC and I don't see any change, my steps are:
> 1) Open VLC
> 2) Zoom in (here with the shipped zoom module of Compiz) or add a
> keyboard shortcut to the follow command that will increase the sound
> volume:
> > amixer sset Master 8%+
>
> Result:
> Orca speaks "Lecteur multimedia VLC"
>
> Expected result with your fix:
> Nothing should be read be cause it speaks the current window title
>
> I'm running Debian 9 "Stretch" with Orca master and VLC Qt 5.
>
> I'll try to test with a GTK3 application ASAP.
>
> Best regards,
> Alex.