Re: [orca-list] Further to drive.google issues

[Nimer Jaber <nimerjaber1 gmail com>]

Looks like this is a setting, file, or something in my specific Google account. So odd. So very strange.

On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 10:30 AM Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com> wrote:

No worries, and thanks! The bad news is that with your settings,
arrowing around in Google Drive still causes me to hear the selected
file. Mystery problems are such a drag....

--joanie

On 2/15/19 11:50 AM, Nimer Jaber via orca-list wrote:
> Not sure what I was thinking, of course that isn't the right
> directory... Sorry about that... Here you go.
>
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 9:24 AM Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com
> <mailto:jdiggs igalia com>> wrote:
>
>     Hey Nimer.
>
>     That's not the right file. That's your source of Orca; I need your
>     settings. In your home directory, you should have a .local directory. In
>     that a share directory. And in that, an orca directory with a few files
>     and directories in it.
>
>     Thanks again, and sorry for any confusion!
>     --joanie
>
>     On 2/14/19 1:02 PM, Nimer Jaber wrote:
>     > Responses below. Thank you for your help.
>     >
>     > On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 10:41 AM Joanmarie Diggs
>     <jdiggs igalia com <mailto:jdiggs igalia com>
>     > <mailto:jdiggs igalia com <mailto:jdiggs igalia com>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >     Hey Nimer. Responses inline.
>     >
>     >     On 2/14/19 12:05 PM, Nimer Jaber wrote:
>     >
>     >     [...]
>     >
>     >     > I did not use the Orca find. I thought this quick find was
>     something
>     >     > built into Firefox?
>     >
>     >     It is. So is Ctrl+F. The difference is that the toolbar that
>     pops up
>     >     when you use / just has an entry. The one you get when you
>     press Ctrl+F
>     >     has widgets to move forward/backward, highlight all, match
>     case, etc.
>     >
>     >     The reason I had mentioned what Orca does is not because it's
>     Orca find,
>     >     but because stuff changes on screen, Orca gets events, and
>     Orca presents
>     >     those events. What changes on screen is the search string gets
>     >     highlighted. So Orca waits for that event, and then reads the
>     line so
>     >     that you can tell non-visually if that is the thing you were
>     looking for
>     >     or not. This highlighting and subsequent presentation by Orca
>     should
>     >     happen regardless of if you are in Firefox's quick find toolbar or
>     >     Firefox's find in page toolbar. And I mention all this because
>     it sounds
>     >     a bit like what you were experiencing. In which case, I think
>     Orca is
>     >     doing the right thing, but if you feel otherwise (i.e. Orca
>     should not
>     >     be presenting the line when you use find in page or quick
>     search), I'm
>     >     willing to listen. :)
>     >
>     > No, I think Orca is definitely doing the right thing.
>     >
>     >
>     >     > By persists, I mean the state that it begins speaking and
>     speaking
>     >     > persists after I clear search, thus making drive accessible
>     again.
>     >     > Really have no idea why this is... I get this behavior with an
>     >     incognito
>     >     > browser mode, as well as two different OS installs before
>     any add-ons
>     >     > are installed...
>     >
>     >     Sorry for being dense, but are you saying that when you clear
>     the search
>     >     "thus making drive accessible again" that interacting with
>     Google Drive
>     >     works as expected and is presenting the correct information?
>     >
>     > Correct.
>     >
>     >
>     >     Lastly, would you mind making a tarball of your
>     $HOME/.local/share/orca
>     >     file and emailing it to me privately? Just as a sanity check,
>     I want to
>     >     replace my settings with yours to see if that makes a difference.
>     >     Because we're both using Fedora and Firefox without extensions and
>     >     you're getting very different and broken-sounding results.
>     >
>     > Yes, here you go. Thank you.
>     >  orca.tar.gz
>     >
>     <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FBImqxWb8oH8X5lGy8KjZsbFSn8wBSJU/view?usp=drive_web>
>     >
>     >
>     >     Thanks!
>     >     --joanie
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > --
>     > Cordially,
>     >
>     > Nimer Jaber
>     >
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Nimer Jaber

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