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Re: [orca-list] Call for testing master with web content

Hello Joanie and all,

I'm testing the new Orca master for days without encountering issues.
For the bug reporting, I'll try to investigate when I could to report the issue. Thanks for your pointer that will help me a lot. 

Best regards,
Alex.

Le 08/02/2019 à 20:36, Joanmarie Diggs a écrit :

Hi Jean-Philippe.

Regarding reporting, I'd start with Firefox. Alex should be able to use
Accerciser to monitor for caret-moved events and selection-changed
events. I was seeing both of these. What I did was use Alex's steps to
reproduce, tweaking with the following:

After loading both pages:
1. give focus back to the etherpad page
2. arrow to a heading
3. down arrow to the next line with "normal" text
4. press alt+2 to move focus to the non-etherpad test case page

Expected results: After switching pages, there would be no caret-moved
event for the line with normal text nor a selection-change the
font/format combo box.

Actual results: After switching pages, there is a caret-moved event for
the line with normal text and a selection-change event for the
font/format combo box.

Based on what Nolan stated and the fact that the document in question
claimed to be focused, I'm now wondering if the event is just super
delayed. Regardless, as you guys sometimes say about Orca+Firefox bugs,
this one is super annoying. Orca depends massively on getting valid
events. And when it gets events that totally look valid, just like good
events, but needs to ignore them because they're bogus or super-delayed
or whatever, the ignoring bit is very, very, very fragile and risky.

--joanie

On 2/8/19 1:45 PM, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote:

Hi,

Thanks Joanie, I am testing this master release.

You mention bugs in Etherpad/Firefox, should we report? To hope that
they will be fixed to avoid workarounds?

regards

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Le 08/02/2019 à 19:36, Nolan Darilek a écrit :

FWIW, I've seen this behavior elsewhere, so I suspect it is Firefox
leaking events, not Etherpad.


For instance, sometimes if I open this URL:


https://capmetro.org/planner/?#!P|SQ!input|Anderson/Gault,%20Stop%20ID%204580!start|yes



and I navigate away, waiting for a real-time transit update, my caret
presents as if it is still on the bus stop's page even though it isn't.


Anyhow, I now use Chromium/ChromeOS for browsing so can't test this
change, but thought I'd offer another data point if it might help.


On 2/8/19 12:06 PM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:

Hey all.

The problem reported by Hypra regarding Orca presenting and navigating
in etherpad when that page tab was not focused happens to be due to a
bug in either etherpad and/or Firefox. We're getting events that suggest
you're in that pad even though you're not. To make matters more fun,
checking the state of the non-focused document results in our being told
that it's focused.

Soooo.... I've added a couple of hacks designed to filter out those
events. There's a chance the filter might be too enthusiastic which will
cause Orca to stop presenting things it should (and used to) present.
I've decided to risk it even though we're getting quite close to the end
of this release cycle on the grounds that fixing this issue would be
good. I would ask you all to test master thoroughly with web content
starting.... NOW! :)

If you find any issues, please verify they are regressions first. To do
so, locally revert the following:

=====
commit 21aff9d5fb6252ee44f2a29f96f1018e84576426
Author: Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com>
Date:   Fri Feb 8 12:01:32 2019 -0500

      Attempt to identify and ignore bogus events from background
etherpad
=====

If that magically fixes things, then yup, it's a regression and I need
to know about it ASAP.

Lastly, please direct questions about git to the mailing list. Many
users here can help you. And I have more things I'd like to accomplish
prior to code freeze.

As always, thanks in advance!!
--joanie
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