I've played around with browsh too (what an odd name) and at least in mate-terminal for me on my laptop, I first had to fight with AWS to even get the thing downloaded, then when I got it working I like the idea. However, as with Jude's example. I ran into issues. I tried going to duckduckgo to do my usual cat videos test search. Sure, I can scroll around, but....and again, this might well be due to runnig it in a terminal, in my quick testing, I didn't find a way to focus a field to, for example, search for cat viddeos in duckduckgo, or even Google. It kept on saying unsupported version. I like the mobile/desktop UA switcher however and I love the idea.....but.....I'm not sure if I was merely doing something wrong just launching browsh after install with no arguments, or if I need to run it in a TTY with Fenrir active as opposed to a terminal? I'll play around with on my desktop to. I like the potential of it hooking into a headless Firefox actually. That's a pretty neat way to do stuff. Jace On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 07:58:09AM -0400, Janina Sajka via orca-list wrote:
OK, I'll shut up and dig more deeply. My bad. Thanks for this deeper look, Didier. Janina Didier Spaier writes:I just installed it. It speaks both in a console with speakup and in mate-terminal with orca. Key bindings from the documentation (don't seem to work in a console): F1 Opens the documentation (mt in Matae-terminal as that opens the terminal's help instead by default). ARROW KEYS, PGUP, PGDN Scrolling CTRL+q Exit app CTRL+l Focus the URL bar BACKSPACE Go back in history CTRL+r Reload page CTRL+t New tab CTRL+w Close tab CTRL+\ Cycle to next tab ALT+SHIFT+p Takes a screenshot. The status bar will display the saved path ALT+m Toggles monochrome mode. Useful for overcoming rendering problems on older terminals. ALT+u Toggles the user agent between a desktop and a mobile device. Useful for smaller terminals that want to use a more suitable layout. Nice try, but far to be as mature as lynx for now. Best, Didier On 10/15/18 11:38 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: > I tried browsh and it opens the browsh home page but once that's done it > appears the keyboard does not respond. It could be I didn't use the > right keys yet and I'm running this browsh command inside my home > directory. What's supplied is an executable for browsh. > > On Mon, 15 Oct 2018, chrys wrote: > >> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 17:04:36 >> From: chrys <chrys linux-a11y org> >> To: orca-list gnome org >> Subject: Re: [orca-list] text console use >> >> Howdy Fernando, >> >> take a look at browsh. its a CLI browser based on firefox. >> maybe its a start >> https://www.brow.sh/ >> >> >> cheers chrys >> Am 15.10.18 um 22:11 schrieb Fernando Botelho: >>> I looked for someone who could implement WebRTC on the console but could not >>> find anybody. I can look for funding again, if someone knows the right >>> person. >>> >>> >>> Fernando >>> >>> >>> >>> On 10/13/2018 07:08 AM, Didier Spaier wrote: >>>> To play Youtube on a Linux console, use mps-youtube. >>>> >>>> About webRTC: I never heard of it until today. The home page says that >>>> Chrome, Firefox, Opera, Android and IOS are supported and there is also >>>> licode: >>>> https://github.com/lynckia/licode >>>> >>>> What we need to integrate it with a text web browser like lynx is >>>> developers. Do you volunteer? >>>> >>>> Of course a graphical environment is easier to grab. But for those who have >>>> the patience to learn, a text UI is usually as good and usually is more >>>> feature comlete, when it exists. >>>> >>>> Stupidly old school? Yes I am, and proud of it. >>>> >>>> I didn't grew up on Commodore and stuff, because I used a personal personal >>>> computer for the first time in 1978 (yes, 40 years ago) and neither ms-DOS >>>> (1980) nor Commodore 64 (1082) existed then. >>>> >>>> Still I was able to use the computer, which obviously had a proprietary OS, >>>> to translate into French its BASIC interpreter (key words and error >>>> messages), all that in 64 Kb of RAM (yes, kilobytes) and not having the >>>> source code at hand. >>>> >>>> O Tempora! O Mores! >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Didier >>>> >>>> On 10/13/18 6:56 AM, Jace Kattalakis via orca-list wrote: >>>>> You find me a CLI browser that can do webRTC and play Youtube without a >>>>> graphical environment, and I may change my tune but I'd argue a graphical >>>>> environment is easir to grab for everyone unless you're stupidly old >>>>> school and grew up on Commodore and DOS stuff. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 12/10/18 20:13, Didier Spaier wrote: >>>>>> Funnily I would tend to ask the opposite question: why a blind person >>>>>> would need a graphical environment? >>>>>> >>>>>> I know at least one blind Slint users who never use one. >>>>>> >>>>>> I believe that most things done in a graphical environment can also be >>>>>> done in a console, often with a better productivity. This stands for >>>>>> blind as well as sighted people. >>>>>> >>>>>> A few examples: for writing you have a lot of text and code editors like >>>>>> nano, emacs and vim, mutt for emails, lynx and links for web browsing, >>>>>> mplayer to listen to music, vlc to listen to movies, crafty to play >>>>>> chess, games like freeswipe or scribble, the list goes on and on. >>>>>> >>>>>> Actually the first personal computer I used nearly 40 years ago didn't >>>>>> have a graphical environment, maybe that's why I am used to text mode. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> >>>>>> Didier >>>>>> >>>>>> On 10/12/18 7:48 PM, Michael Weaver via orca-list wrote: >>>>>>> I don't know if this is the right list to ask on as it is not strictly >>>>>>> Orca but it is about text screenreaders but is text console use still >>>>>>> necessary. I am not quite clear on this point. The reason is that you >>>>>>> can use the terminals in gnome, Mate or maybe other desktops like >>>>>>> mate-terminal from an alt F2 run prompt which is why I ask about text >>>>>>> consoles, your CTRL ALT F1 to F6 which don't speak with Orca so need a >>>>>>> different screenreader. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just curious with projects like Fenrir. >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> orca-list mailing list >>>> orca-list gnome org >>>> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list >>>> Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca >>>> Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/ >>>> GNOME Universal Access guide: >>>> https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html >>>> Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> orca-list mailing list >>> orca-list gnome org >>> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list >>> Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca >>> Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/ >>> GNOME Universal Access guide: >>> https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html >>> Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> orca-list mailing list >> orca-list gnome org >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list >> Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca >> Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/ >> GNOME Universal Access guide: >> https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html >> Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org >> > _______________________________________________ orca-list mailing list orca-list gnome org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/ GNOME Universal Access guide: https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org-- Janina Sajka Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa _______________________________________________ orca-list mailing list orca-list gnome org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/ GNOME Universal Access guide: https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
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