Re: [orca-list] text console use

[Janina Sajka <janina rednote net>]

OK, I'll shut up and dig more deeply. My bad. 

Thanks for this deeper look, Didier.

Janina

Didier Spaier writes:
> I just installed it. It speaks both in a console with speakup
> and in mate-terminal with orca.
>
> Key bindings from the documentation (don't seem to work in a console):
> F1 Opens the documentation (mt in Matae-terminal as that opens the terminal's help instead by default).
> ARROW KEYS, PGUP, PGDN Scrolling
> CTRL+q Exit app
> CTRL+l Focus the URL bar
> BACKSPACE Go back in history
> CTRL+r Reload page
> CTRL+t New tab
> CTRL+w Close tab
> CTRL+\ Cycle to next tab
>
> ALT+SHIFT+p Takes a screenshot. The status bar will display the saved path
> ALT+m Toggles monochrome mode. Useful for overcoming rendering problems on older terminals.
> ALT+u Toggles the user agent between a desktop and a mobile device. Useful for smaller terminals that want 
> to use a more suitable layout.
>
> Nice try, but far to be as mature as lynx for now.
>
> Best,
> Didier
>
> On 10/15/18 11:38 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> > I tried browsh and it opens the browsh home page but once that's done it
> > appears the keyboard does not respond.  It could be I didn't use the
> > right keys yet and I'm running this browsh command inside my home
> > directory.  What's supplied is an executable for browsh.
> >
> > On Mon, 15 Oct 2018, chrys wrote:
> >
> > > Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 17:04:36
> > > From: chrys <chrys linux-a11y org>
> > > To: orca-list gnome org
> > > Subject: Re: [orca-list] text console use
> > >
> > > Howdy Fernando,
> > >
> > > take a look at browsh. its a CLI browser based on firefox.
> > > maybe its a start
> > > https://www.brow.sh/
> > >
> > >
> > > cheers chrys
> > > Am 15.10.18 um 22:11 schrieb Fernando Botelho:
> > > > I looked for someone who could implement WebRTC on the console but could not
> > > > find anybody. I can look for funding again, if someone knows the right
> > > > person.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Fernando
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 10/13/2018 07:08 AM, Didier Spaier wrote:
> > > > > To play Youtube on a Linux console, use mps-youtube.
> > > > >
> > > > > About webRTC: I never heard of it until today. The home page says that
> > > > > Chrome, Firefox, Opera, Android and IOS are supported and there is also
> > > > > licode:
> > > > > https://github.com/lynckia/licode
> > > > >
> > > > > What we need to integrate it with a text web browser like lynx is
> > > > > developers. Do you volunteer?
> > > > >
> > > > > Of course a graphical environment is easier to grab. But for those who have
> > > > > the patience to learn, a text UI is usually as good and usually is more
> > > > > feature comlete, when it exists.
> > > > >
> > > > > Stupidly old school? Yes I am, and proud of it.
> > > > >
> > > > > I didn't grew up on Commodore and stuff, because I used a personal personal
> > > > > computer for the first time in 1978 (yes, 40 years ago) and neither ms-DOS
> > > > > (1980) nor Commodore 64 (1082) existed then.
> > > > >
> > > > > Still I was able to use the computer, which obviously had a proprietary OS,
> > > > > to translate into French its BASIC interpreter (key words and error
> > > > > messages), all that in 64 Kb of RAM (yes, kilobytes) and not having the
> > > > > source code at hand.
> > > > >
> > > > > O Tempora! O Mores!
> > > > >
> > > > > Best,
> > > > >
> > > > > Didier
> > > > >
> > > > > On 10/13/18 6:56 AM, Jace Kattalakis via orca-list wrote:
> > > > > > You find me a CLI browser that can do webRTC and play Youtube without a
> > > > > > graphical environment, and I may change my tune but I'd argue a graphical
> > > > > > environment is easir to grab for everyone unless you're stupidly old
> > > > > > school and grew up on Commodore and DOS stuff.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 12/10/18 20:13, Didier Spaier wrote:
> > > > > > > Funnily I would tend to ask the opposite question: why a blind person
> > > > > > > would need a graphical environment?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I know at least one blind Slint users who never use one.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I believe that most things done in a graphical environment can also be
> > > > > > > done in a console, often with a better productivity. This stands for
> > > > > > > blind as well as sighted people.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > A few examples: for writing you have a lot of text and code editors like
> > > > > > > nano, emacs and vim, mutt for emails, lynx and links for web browsing,
> > > > > > > mplayer to listen to music, vlc to listen to movies, crafty to play
> > > > > > > chess, games like freeswipe or scribble, the list goes on and on.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Actually the first personal computer I used nearly 40 years ago didn't
> > > > > > > have a graphical environment, maybe that's why I am used to text mode.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Didier
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 10/12/18 7:48 PM, Michael Weaver via orca-list wrote:
> > > > > > > > I don't know if this is the right list to ask on as it is not strictly
> > > > > > > > Orca but it is about text screenreaders but is text console use still
> > > > > > > > necessary. I am not quite clear on this point. The reason is that you
> > > > > > > > can use the terminals in gnome, Mate or maybe other desktops like
> > > > > > > > mate-terminal from an alt F2 run prompt which is why I ask about text
> > > > > > > > consoles, your CTRL ALT F1 to F6 which don't speak with Orca so need a
> > > > > > > > different screenreader.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Just curious with projects like Fenrir.
> > > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > > > orca-list gnome org
> > > > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
> > > > > Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
> > > > > Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
> > > > > GNOME Universal Access guide:
> > > > > https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
> > > > > Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > > orca-list gnome org
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> > > > Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
> > > > Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
> > > > GNOME Universal Access guide:
> > > > https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
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> > >
> > >
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> > > Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
> > > Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
> > > GNOME Universal Access guide:
> > > https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
> > > Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
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Janina Sajka

Linux Foundation Fellow
Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:       http://a11y.org

The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
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