Re: [orca-list] accessibility of snapt packages?

[kendell clark <coffeekingms gmail com>]

hi

Looks like I'm wrong about snap packages. They *can* be made accessible. 
It's just the spotify and skype apps that are not accessible. The ubuntu 
mate welcome package is a snap file, as is the software boutique, and 
both are accessible. I don't know whether it's worth bothering  trying 
to get ms and spotify to fix their obvious bugs, they'll probably just 
say to use windows, but I suppose someone will eventually bring it up, 
gotta use proprietary stuff and all that.

Thanks

Kendell Clark



On 03/21/2018 07:25 AM, kendell clark wrote:
> hi
>
> I couldn't agree more re joanie. I ask her to do stuff when she has 
> time, others ask her to do stuff when she has time, her company pays 
> her to work on stuff, she's the only one making sure orca keeps 
> getting better, with the exception of translators, she's the main 
> coder, so she does a lot, and I do mean a lot, of work. I don't think 
> I could do all the work she does without burning out several times 
> over. In addition to that, she's very kind and diplomatic. My message 
> sounded like a two year old who was frustrated someone took his ball, 
> and she just shrugged and said send me a debug file, when she could've 
> said ubuntu bug, bug them, or said nothing, and I'd have been screwed. 
> As for snap packages, you can do snap install packagename, without 
> sudo, it will open a gtk dialog for your password. You can also do 
> snap search packagename, snap info packagename, snap remove 
> packagename, and a bunch of stuff I don't mess with. Gnome software 
> can also install packages from the "snap store", so that's an option. 
> Looking at snapcraft, the main hq for snap, snapd and the associated 
> packages that make it work run on ubuntu, mint, arch, debian, gentoo, 
> and others. The one bad thing about snap is that a lot of the packages 
> are proprietary, although that's not snap's fault. There are open 
> source things too, like mumble, telegram, and firefox, but there are 
> also closed source stuff, like skype, spotify and slack. I am glad 
> that linux has an app store like thing, that works across linux 
> distros. I wish more of it was open, but shrug. All of the 
> underpinnings are open, and that's good enough for me. Gnome software, 
> snap, snapd, and all of the things snap needs to run are all open, 
> it's just some of the apps in the store that aren't.
>
> Thanks
>
> Kendell Clark
>
>
>
> On 03/21/2018 05:57 AM, Alex ARNAUD wrote:
> > Le 20/03/2018 à 21:09, kendell clark a écrit :
> > > hi
> >
> > Hi Kendell,
> >
> > > which so far doesn't seem to be done. Snap packages get access to 
> > > the resources they need except accessibility services, I think. I'm 
> > > not absolutely positive about this, but I download a snap version of 
> > > firefox,
> >
> > How do you have install it? I'm not familiar with snap.
> >
> >  and it was a blank window called "firefox", so orca doesn't
> > > seem to be able to see it, and firefox is very much accessible. I 
> > > wonder if the ubuntu guys would fix this,
> >
> > It's indeed ubuntu-related issue.
> >
> >  or if joanie could work on it when
> > > she has time? 
> >
> > I don't want to talk for Joanie but it seems she has already enough 
> > work to do with Orca bugs and improvement.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Alex.

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