Re: [orca-list] In Orca 3.28, I cannot turn off some messages

[Didier Spaier <didier slint fr>]

Hello,

I have found the bug. The Ubuntu orca package for Bionic include a
schema named org.gnome.orca.gschema.xml, that misses keys for fields
whose name begins with Announce in the Say All group.

I have filed the bug:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/orca/+bug/1783641

Best regards,

Didier

On 07/25/2018 09:27 PM, Didier Spaier wrote:
> Hi Joanie and Vojtěch,
>
> I just tried in Ubuntu 18.04 (Gnome) in a VM and get the same behavior
> (also Orca 2.28.0)
>
> If I check or un check options, confirm then click OK, then bring up
> again the preferences GUI again, the changes I made didn't hold.
>
> Probably related: doing a "find -mmin -1" in ~  after having changed
> something gives:
> ./config/dconf
> .config/dconf/user
>
> However if I type dconf-editor I just get a message under
> /org/gnome/orca/active/profile beginning with:
> "No schema available"
>
> That's all i know and I can't compare with Slint as there these settings
> are not in a dconf database, rather in
> ~/local/share/orca/user-settings.conf
>
> Anyway yes, this looks very much like an upstream bug.
>
> However, sorry but I am not an Ubuntu user, so please someone reading
> this check that the upstream version works in Ubuntu 18.04 and file a
> bug on the Ubuntu bug tracker.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Didier
>
> On 07/25/2018 08:18 PM, Vojtěch šmiro via orca-list wrote:
>
> On 07/25/2018 09:04 PM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> > Hi Vojta.
> >
> > I cannot reproduce the problem here. And I don't use Ubuntu. Perhaps an
> > Ubuntu user who is able to use upstream Orca could test and see if they
> > have the problem using the downstream version but don't using the
> > upstream version. If so, then I would suggest filing a bug downstream
> > for this issue.
> >
> > --joanie
> >
> > On 07/25/2018 02:18 PM, Vojtěch šmiro via orca-list wrote:
> > > Hello.
> > >
> > > I cannot do that. I don't know how can I do it. I don't know anything
> > > about making apps from source, etc. I have Orca which is in Ubuntu. And
> > > I use Ubuntu Mate, not Gnome.
> > >
> > > Best regards
> > >
> > > Vojta.
> > >
> > > Joanmarie Diggs napsal(a):
> > > > Are you using the Orca which comes with Ubuntu? If memory serves me,
> > > > they have downstream patches to use gsettings. It is possible that as
> > > > new settings are added to Orca, the downstream support is not being
> > > > updated. Could you try using upstream Orca either from master or the
> > > > gnome-3-28 branch and see if you still have the problem?
> > > >
> > > > --joanie
> > > >
> > > > On 07/25/2018 11:35 AM, Vojtěch šmiro via orca-list wrote:
> > > > > Hello.
> > > > >
> > > > > I unchecked it and if I looked on that, ot was turn on again. It cannot
> > > > > save my options.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards
> > > > >
> > > > > Vojta.
> > > > >
> > > > > Joanmarie Diggs napsal(a):
> > > > > > The settings on the general tab are for Say All; not for things like
> > > > > > caret navigation. So are you saying that Orca is presenting those
> > > > > > things
> > > > > > in Say All even though you disabled them on the general tab? Or is the
> > > > > > problem happening during caret navigation? If the problem is happening
> > > > > > during caret navigation, did you also disable those options on the
> > > > > > speech tab?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --joanie
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 07/25/2018 09:48 AM, Vojtěch šmiro via orca-list wrote:
> > > > > > > Hello.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I speak about general tab.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best regards
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Vojta.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Didier Spaier napsal(a):
> > > > > > > > Hello Vojta and all,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Just to make sure: are you speaking about the General Tab below
> > > > > > > > Say All
> > > > > > > > or the Speech tab below Spoken Context?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I ask, because below Say All the settings apply when Orca speaks the
> > > > > > > > document content from your present location to the end of the
> > > > > > > > document,
> > > > > > > > whereas below Spoken Context the settings apply about to focused
> > > > > > > > item.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Best regards
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Didier
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 07/25/2018 09:57 AM, Vojtěch šmiro via orca-list wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Hello.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I have got Ubuntu Mate 18.04 and Orca 3.28.0. I would like to turn
> > > > > > > > > off reading lists, tables, forms, etc. But if I turn it off and
> > > > > > > > > press
> > > > > > > > > OK, nothing happens, it's already turned on.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your help.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Best regards
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Vojta.
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