Re: [orca-list] I hate pulse

[John G Heim <jheim math wisc edu>]

Well, you're probably right. The odds that it's pulse are low. But not 
zero. Pulse does crash after all, and it's problems can survive a 
reboot. I've seen a lot of people explain that you can fix a problem 
with pulse by sshing to your desktop and deleting the ~/.config/pulse/ 
folder. I've done that myself several times over the past couple of 
years. Why couldn't pulse have a problem where it lets orca say a few 
words before it crashes?

After the reboot, I was able to log in. I got speech at the login 
screen. But after I logged in, there was no speech. I could press Alt+F2 
and type "orca --replace" and it said "screen reader reloaded" and then 
nothing. I rebooted a second time and it seemed fine. The only other 
strange thing is that I sshed to the machine just now to check the 
version of at-spi2-core and it wouldn't let me run dpkg. It said it was 
locked. As if another update was already running. So maybe it has 
something to do with some kind of autoupdate weirdness.

PS: Dpkg says I'm running at-spi2-core 2.22. I run ubuntu zesty.



On 08/18/2017 11:52 AM, Michał Zegan wrote:
> well, as if pulse could actually do such a thing... please note, sound
> worked enough to say things like screen reader on. the  chance that this
> is a pulse bug is far below 0
>
> W dniu 18.08.2017 o 16:50, Janina Sajka via orca-list pisze:
> > Amen.
> >
> >
> > I generally terminate pulse with extreme prejudice. It's not worth the
> > trouble. Afaik, all pulse provides the Orca user that alsa doesn't, is
> > earcons. Well, earcons are nice, but not essential. Reliable speech is
> > essential. Long live alsa.
> >
> > Janina
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > John G Heim writes:
> > > I hate pulse. Or at least I think I do. So here is what happened to me last
> > > night. I was writing a php scritp to show pathfinder (that's open-source
> > > D&D) spells in a table. All of a sudden, orca stops speaking. I hit Alt+F2
> > > and type, "orca --replace". I hear the familiar, "screen reader reloaded"
> > > and then nothing. I do it again, same effect. I tried getting out of
> > > firefox, gedit, etc. Hard to know what I was actually doing w/o the screen
> > > reader. Finally, I reboot. Same thing! I can restart orca but it won't
> > > speak. What kind of bug, I ask myself, can survive a reboot? Then it hits me
> > > ... pulse. Pulse-f'in-audio.
> > > --
> > >
> > > PS: If anybody is interested in the pathfinder spells web app, let me know.
> > > It's open source.
> > > --
> > > John G. Heim; jheim math wisc edu; sip://jheim sip linphone org
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