Re: [orca-list] Changes/ finetuning for Progressbar Beeps
- From: "B. Henry" <burt1iband gmail com>
- To: Devin Prater <r d t prater gmail com>, orca-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: [orca-list] Changes/ finetuning for Progressbar Beeps
- Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 13:18:39 -0500
Unless oone is sitting right in front of a laptop or has good sound system connected to their computer they
won't hear movement.
I do have a request, or maybe I am aggreeing with what is being proposed, sorry, I am unsure of what was
meant by shorter beeps.
I set my spoken progress msgs to 5 seconds, but would like more frequent beeps in many cases, It could seem
to add a bit of overhead to the code, but maybe
not or maybe it would be minimal to check progress percentage every second, maybe even half second and if the
change from the last check is more than a
certain percent, 5% , maybe, then there would be a beep.
For slow progress a beep every 5 seconds is fine.
NVDA works this way I believe, i.e. sometimes beep come very quicklyl when something updates quickly, and it
can be much slower for something that takes a
long time to complete. For slower updates then default to beeping every 5 or 10 secs.
The alternative, having separate settings for spoken, braille, and beeped progress would not be as good as I
don't want to hear a beep if progress has not
advanced much or any.
Having braille and spoken beeps on the same timer probably makes sense.
I am guesssing that folks who can use both speech and braille won't use braile updates unless they have
chosen to turn speech off all together for some
reason.
Regards, and thanks for working on this.
--
B.H.
Registerd Linux User 521886
Devin Prater wrote:
Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 08:36:57AM -0500
I’d like progress beeps that pan from left to right instead of using
pitch, because most of the time I don’t know exactly how high the pitch
goes.
Sent from my Mac.
Devin Prater
[1]r d t prater gmail com
On Jun 29, 2016, at 8:23 AM, Peter Vágner <[2]pvdeejay gmail com> wrote:
Hello,
I have looked at the issue you have linked to and I am somewhat shocked
that Nolan's patch has been put aside with somewhat disrespectfull
attitude.
To us non musicians or not very sensitive to individual tones it might
appear as something what may not be needed however I know some people
who might really benefit from having clean predictable like
implementation Nolan has suggested.
Can you Chrys and Joanie get back to that please and reconsider it?
Greetings
Peter
On 29.06.2016 at 11:55 [3]chrys87 web de wrote:
Hi Joanie, Hi List,
I did some finetuning on the progressbar beeps caused by userrequests.
You could find them attached on that ticket:
[4]https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=758328
I made two changes:
1. make the beeps more short.
[5]https://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=330508
2. Ignore Interval for the beeps. That only make sense for Output that
needs "time to present". People like to activate both; Beeps for an
progess gues, the voice/ braile output for precise information in big
intervals.
[6]https://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=330509
What does others think about that here?
cheers chrys
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