Re: [orca-list] Changes/ finetuning for Progressbar Beeps

["B. Henry" <burt1iband gmail com>]

On both screenreaders you can have only spoken percentages. 
Well, on orca for sure, I am almost sure on nvda you can have progress spoken. 
Beeps are default there I think. 
I would think for an alternating scheme as you propose one would want a few beeps between anouncements, say 
an announcement every 10 secs or 20% which ever 
came first, and if someone wanted beeps they could be  every second or so if things updated quickly, every 2 
secs or maybe 2.5, if progress is slow. 
I rally prefer setting each individually however as  is partly the case now, i.e. we can turn one on or all 
three types of progress. 
I would like more control over beeps interval however, see my other msg.


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  Fernando Botelho wrote:
Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 10:46:22AM -0300

> I remember hearing progress beeps on NVDA and also being pretty lost, as i
> did not know how high they were supposed to go.
>
> I wish both Orca and NVDA could give just a percentage via espeak, or if
> beeping is a must, then alternate between current stage and final beep.
>
> So if final beep were 400hz., then beep alternating 300hz 400hz, 310hz
> 400hz, 320hz 400hz, 330hz 400hz, and so forth.
>
> Best,
>
> Fernando
>
>
> On 06/29/2016 10:36 AM, Devin Prater wrote:
> > I’d like progress beeps that pan from left to right instead of using pitch, because most of the time I 
> > don’t know exactly how high the pitch goes.
> > Sent from my Mac.
> >
> > Devin Prater
> > r d t prater gmail com
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Jun 29, 2016, at 8:23 AM, Peter Vágner <pvdeejay gmail com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > >
> > > I have looked at the issue you have linked to and I am somewhat shocked that Nolan's patch has been put 
> > > aside with somewhat disrespectfull attitude.
> > >
> > >
> > > To us non musicians or not very sensitive to individual tones it might appear as something what may not 
> > > be needed however I know some people who might really benefit from having clean predictable like 
> > > implementation Nolan has suggested.
> > >
> > >
> > > Can you Chrys and Joanie get back to that please and reconsider it?
> > >
> > >
> > > Greetings
> > >
> > >
> > > Peter
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 29.06.2016 at 11:55 chrys87 web de <mailto:chrys87 web de> wrote:
> > > > Hi Joanie, Hi List,
> > > > I did some finetuning on the progressbar beeps caused by userrequests.
> > > > You could find them attached on that ticket:
> > > > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=758328 <https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=758328>
> > > > I made two changes:
> > > > 1. make the beeps more short.
> > > > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=330508 
> > > > <https://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=330508>
> > > > 2. Ignore Interval for the beeps. That only make sense for Output that needs "time to present". 
> > > > People like to activate both; Beeps for an progess gues, the voice/ braile output for precise 
> > > > information in big intervals.
> > > > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=330509 
> > > > <https://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=330509>
> > > > What does others think about that here?
> > > > cheers chrys
> > > >
> > > >
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