Re: [orca-list] Where am I conflict betwwen detailled or not

[Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com>]

Hi Alex, all.

I don't think what you have found is a bug. I think what you have found
is behavior you don't like.

Not all objects have a customized detailed where am I. For those that do
not, a generic default kicks in. This happens to be the case for menus.
So In your first test case:

> 1) Open Pidgin or Thunderbird or Gnome Terminal (maybe every apps)
> 2) Press F10

You land on a menu.

> 3) Do orca+enter, it reads detailed description

It reads the basic where am I information.

> 4) Do orca+enter (2 time) for detailled "where am I" , it reads short
> description

It reads the default/generic detailed where am I information because you
are on a menu and there is no detailed where am I information for menus.

Other objects, of course, do have detailed where am I information
specific to the type. For web content, which includes Thunderbird
messages, the detailed where am I information is the page summary:
Number of links and headings and landmarks, etc. With this in mind:

> 1) Open Thunderbird
> 2) Write a message

I assume it lacks headings and links and the like.

> 3) On a line, press Orca+enter, Orca says "document frame content of line"

That's the basic where am I.

> 4) On the same line, press Orca+enter (2 times) for detailed "where am
> I", Orca stays silent

When there is no page summary, Orca is silent (rather than says "page
has:" followed by nothing.

> Could we help Orca team to debug thing something like that ? I'm
> available on irc to discuss about that.

There's nothing to debug because there is not a bug here. If, however,
the actual behavior is not what you would like (which is my guess given
that you reported it. <smiles>), then a discussion here on this mailing
list with other users to reach consensus on the "correct" behavior is
called for.

If you all define that, then I will make it so.

--joanie