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Re: [orca-list] Maybe I can help develop Orca.

Can you elaborate on these kernel changes?  I can't believe that all
console i/o would be handed off to systemd which would make it
mandatory -- you will hear screams and explosions all over the place
if anyone tried that.

On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 15:36:18 -0400,
Devin Prater wrote:


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Also, since the orbit reader, 20-cells for $400 or so, should be coming out, braille *should* be more 
widely used. The brltty folks will have a field day with that. 

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On Aug 19, 2016, at 1:48 PM, B. Henry <burt1iband gmail com> wrote:

 I agree that while there is certainly work that can be done to improve orca that far too much of Joani's 
valuable time seems to be taken up working around 
 shortcomings in applications.
 I know there is work being done on an alt console reader as well, a fork of jupiter as I understand it, 
but I sincerely hope that folks will port speakup 
 to user space in time for the kernel changes that will eventually hand off console support to systemd as I 
understand it. 
 Speech-dispatcher also needs work, and while I think Luke will start focusing more on this he can probably 
use some help.
 Braille support in orca is something I've never had the chance to test, much less actually use day in and 
day out, but I know it is of vital importance to 
 many, both those who do not hear or hear well, and those who need something more comfortable for tasks 
such as solving math problems, balancing equations, 
 etc. 
 So, John, you need to stick around for many years to make sure this important component is kept up to 
snuff.
 Thanks again for work on liblouis, and thanks to all who work on Linux accessibility, got to say this at 
least once a season somewhere/think it is 
 worthwhile list clutter!
 Regards,

 -- 
     B.H.
   Registerd Linux User 521886

  Fernando Botelho wrote:
 Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 03:16:43PM -0300

 My own humble suggestion would be different. I think you can make a bigger

 impact on the quality of the non-technical end=user, by helping the Libre

 Office guys with accessibility coding or testing, or reporting.  Orca can

 improve certainly, but right now the biggest issue I suspect is when

 applications do not give it what they should.

 Best wishes,

 Fernando

 On 08/18/2016 02:46 PM, Mgr. Janusz Chmiel wrote:

 Dear MR Boyer,

 I Am deeply appreciating yours development enthusiasm and MRS Joan Marie

 will be very probably extremely pleased that so experienced developer

 with so many development knowledge have decided to help.

 I think, that Orca screen reader have reached very very much. It support

 many functions, many keyboard shortcuts to control various aspect of it.

 Its stability is very good.

 I see only one big disadvantage of Orca when I compare it with NVDA for

 Windows.

 When user uses flat rewiev, for example, numeric keys 7 and 9 to browse

 lines of text, Orca must always read object database and it can not

 monitor dynamic changes while in flat rewiev.

 I Am afraid, that this issue is caused by The programmers technique, how

 at-spi C++ and Python components work and have been designed.

 Or, Python code of Orca would be too slow to dynamically monitor changes

 at The background.

 NVDA uses GDI hooks or MSAA or UI automation calls.

 BUt this is only one disadvantage, which i see while comparing with NVDA.

 Also Windows screen readers can not enable users to use all various

 programs, because if developers will use not standard GUI tool kit for

 GUI creation, even The best screen reader developer willbe helpless.

 Those are only my opinions, I do not to de graduate works of core

 developers of Orca and at-spi, Py-atspi, ETC.

 The typical situation related to slow flat review algorithms is

 situation, when user will update components by using ANdroid SDK

 manager.

 It is complex Java program, and in this cases, there will be some

 slowness related problems when browsing window by using Orca flat review

 keys.

 John J. Boyer napsal(a):

 I've handed over my work with liblouis to a very capable team. Now I'm

 thinking of what I can do for Orca and NVDA. I turned 80 in July, but I

 want to remain active as long as possible.

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