Also, since the orbit reader, 20-cells for $400 or so, should be coming out, braille *should* be more widely used. The brltty folks will have a field day with that. Sent from my iPhone I agree that while there is certainly work that can be done to improve orca that far too much of Joani's valuable time seems to be taken up working around shortcomings in applications.I know there is work being done on an alt console reader as well, a fork of jupiter as I understand it, but I sincerely hope that folks will port speakup to user space in time for the kernel changes that will eventually hand off console support to systemd as I understand it. Speech-dispatcher also needs work, and while I think Luke will start focusing more on this he can probably use some help.Braille support in orca is something I've never had the chance to test, much less actually use day in and day out, but I know it is of vital importance to many, both those who do not hear or hear well, and those who need something more comfortable for tasks such as solving math problems, balancing equations, etc. So, John, you need to stick around for many years to make sure this important component is kept up to snuff.Thanks again for work on liblouis, and thanks to all who work on Linux accessibility, got to say this at least once a season somewhere/think it is worthwhile list clutter!Regards,-- B.H. Registerd Linux User 521886 Fernando Botelho wrote:Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 03:16:43PM -0300My own humble suggestion would be different. I think you can make a bigger
impact on the quality of the non-technical end=user, by helping the Libre
Office guys with accessibility coding or testing, or reporting. Orca can
improve certainly, but right now the biggest issue I suspect is when
applications do not give it what they should.
Best wishes,
Fernando
On 08/18/2016 02:46 PM, Mgr. Janusz Chmiel wrote:
Dear MR Boyer,
I Am deeply appreciating yours development enthusiasm and MRS Joan Marie
will be very probably extremely pleased that so experienced developer
with so many development knowledge have decided to help.
I think, that Orca screen reader have reached very very much. It support
many functions, many keyboard shortcuts to control various aspect of it.
Its stability is very good.
I see only one big disadvantage of Orca when I compare it with NVDA for
Windows.
When user uses flat rewiev, for example, numeric keys 7 and 9 to browse
lines of text, Orca must always read object database and it can not
monitor dynamic changes while in flat rewiev.
I Am afraid, that this issue is caused by The programmers technique, how
at-spi C++ and Python components work and have been designed.
Or, Python code of Orca would be too slow to dynamically monitor changes
at The background.
NVDA uses GDI hooks or MSAA or UI automation calls.
BUt this is only one disadvantage, which i see while comparing with NVDA.
Also Windows screen readers can not enable users to use all various
programs, because if developers will use not standard GUI tool kit for
GUI creation, even The best screen reader developer willbe helpless.
Those are only my opinions, I do not to de graduate works of core
developers of Orca and at-spi, Py-atspi, ETC.
The typical situation related to slow flat review algorithms is
situation, when user will update components by using ANdroid SDK
manager.
It is complex Java program, and in this cases, there will be some
slowness related problems when browsing window by using Orca flat review
keys.
John J. Boyer napsal(a):
I've handed over my work with liblouis to a very capable team. Now I'm
thinking of what I can do for Orca and NVDA. I turned 80 in July, but I
want to remain active as long as possible.
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