Re: [orca-list] should orca announce aria landmarks by default?

[Devin Prater <r d t prater gmail com>]

By default, maybe not. Pages like Google or Facebook use them just about every other element, so perhaps they 
should not be spoken by default.

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> On Sep 3, 2015, at 5:46 AM, Kyle <kyle4jesus gmail com> wrote:
>
> I haven't extensively used this feature, so I can't exactly comment
> from experience. I do recall reading something about I think it's
> called 508 compliance, but I don't remember it saying anything about
> these landmarks, and in my limited testing of this feature, it seems
> most websites don't use them much if at all. Also, "landmark" just
> seems rather nondescript to me, which probably contributes to my lack
> of understanding of what they are used for and why I may need/want
> them. For landmarks, I usually use heading and link navigation as
> needed, as well as Orca's large object function. If I can have a better
> experience using landmarks instead, many website designers don't know
> it, and neither do I <smiles>.
>
> Regarding the verbosity, yes, it would probably increase greatly on
> websites where landmarks are used, and I may find myself somewhat
> surprised by the number of websites actually making use of them.
> However, increased verbosity in a screen reader is usually something to
> be avoided, especially if some more advanced users don't know the
> purpose of the extra wording.
>
> My thought is that users who already understand the purpose of
> landmarks know how to navigate between them, and probably only use them
> for navigating. Those users who don't use them currently will likely
> gain little to no benefit from hearing where they are in the body of
> text or other information on a page as they  try to read it, and if
> they begin to understand and use them, will likely only use them to
> make navigation easier. Hope this helps.
> Sent from my backup server
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