Re: [orca-list] GUI Redesign or clearup and modernization

[Devin Prater <r d t prater gmail com>]

No. Windows changes way too often. I think I'll go with mate too if it has applications in menues instead of 
just flinging them all over like win10 does.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 2, 2015, at 4:04 PM, Josh K <joshknnd1982 gmail com> wrote:
>
> you don't like windows10? yes true the start menu can be a bit laggy but i fixed that by installing classic 
> shell. its so much faster than win7! it start up fast like linux does and has done for years.
>
> follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982
>
> > On 9/2/2015 5:00 PM, Devin Prater wrote:
> > I wouldn't want eSpeak to sound like Eloquence, and I don't like Windows Ten either. I was just pointing 
> > out what Linux doesn't have much of. If old seasoned users of Linux cannot have patience with the new 
> > people that would rather test the waters rather than jump in and possibly drown, then indeed, Linux won't 
> > attract new users, and therefore won't get much better or gain much more innovation..
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Sep 2, 2015, at 2:30 PM, kendell clark <coffeekingms gmail com> wrote:
> > >
> > > hi
> > > Well, I tried. I'm done trying to help people who just won't be reasoned
> > > with. You want everything windows has, for free. You don't want to have
> > > to actually work to improve stuff if it's not as polished as you'd like.
> > > You complain instead. I've used windows 10. Several times. I'm not in
> > > the least impressed. I've spent four years improving espeak's us english
> > > in the hope that the whining would stop. Instead, it's changed from
> > > "espeak sucks" to "I want espeak to sound like eloquence" or "I want a
> > > commercial human sounding voice because apple and windows have them"
> > > Yes, they do. But try reading a book with them. That human sounding
> > > voice doesn't suddenly sound so great. I've said my piece, I'm done. Any
> > > further messages I see in this thread, I'll delete unless they're from
> > > joanie or another linux user I actually know. Any windows users can rant
> > > all they like. I've had enough
> > > Thanks
> > > Kendell clark
> > >
> > >
> > > > On 09/02/2015 12:13 PM, Devin Prater wrote:
> > > > For your slight information, I am not a gov blink. Nope, I actually abhore ADRS for how they destroy 
> > > > independence. I ordered the Vario Ultra 20 for $2300. And how, may I ask, is Linux accessibility "far 
> > > > ahead of what we Apple and Windows folk" get? Y'all don't even have a good way of making music, OCR, 
> > > > good TTS engines, and fewer games than the Mac even has. I find that you Linux fans assume a lot. :)
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > >
> > > > > On Sep 2, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Kyle <kyle4jesus gmail com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry for the upcoming rant, but some of this nonsense I'm seeing drove
> > > > > me to it.
> > > > >
> > > > > I can still build an 8-core x86_64 computer for less money than it
> > > > > currently costs to purchase even the least expensive open source
> > > > > braille displays, which are still costly prototypes. Once braille
> > > > > becomes as affordable as say for instance a computer monitor, then
> > > > > maybe more people will have the means to code for them, and braille
> > > > > won't be just for lucky blind government entitlement babies anymore.
> > > > > Until then, braille is always going to be too expensive to get enough
> > > > > people working on to improve it. Sorry, that's just the way it is. And
> > > > > no, I didn't use braille back in the days when I had access to Windows
> > > > > either, because I'm not a blind government baby who expected all the
> > > > > expensive stuff to be handed to me like I'm entitled to it or
> > > > > something, which is also why I use Linux now and help where I can to
> > > > > raise awareness and to contribute where I can to its development and
> > > > > wider usage by *all* people, not just entitlement blinks. No, Linux
> > > > > isn't "catching up" as you Microsoft and Apple lovers so eloquently put
> > > > > it. It's here, and it's far ahead of anything else you could be using.
> > > > > So get used to it.
> > > > > Sent from my Cancerian beast
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